I am not a conservative, but I understand you have a very narrow view
of the world and everyone must fit into strictly defined categories
and fit into rigidly structured cubby-holes, so confusion on your part
is expected.

I am all about personal responsibility. Like standing up for the fact
that you committed a crime and not trying to place blame on the
victim.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> It's called negligence.  And here I thought you were a conservative and all
> about personal responsibility...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:19 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!
>
>
> So, there you go. You do indeed support blaming the victim. And here I
> thought you were a liberal.
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I do think there should be a penalty assessed when you get hacked and it
> is
>> because you have a weak password.  Imagine how many IT headaches that
> would
>> solve.
>>
>> I think the moral of the story is that if you are going to do something
> that
>> is illegal...make sure you use a strong passwords and a good encryption
>> scheme....or at least one good enough to stop a teenager ;-)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Medic [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:36 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!
>>
>>
>> Well, kind of. You could say the lid on the mailbox is akin to a weak
>> password on your email. However it's kind of a moot point.
>>
>> The common argument here, and one which you seem to be parroting is the
>> "don't be surprised if..." argument. This I think loses the plot a bit
> here
>> as I don't think anyone is arguing about being surprised about the email
>> getting hacked with a weak-ass challenge response. However whether a turn
> of
>> events is surprising or unexpected doesn't make the crime any more or less
> a
>> crime.
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Eric Roberts <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> That's even a bad analogy.  The mail box isn't locked and cant be (or how
>>> else does mail get in), while your email is supposed to be secured.  If
>> you
>>> want to stick to the snail mail analogy, then maybe a PO box and you
> leave
>>> your key hanging on the box at the post office.  But again, if you don't
>>> secure thing and you leave it wide open, don't be surprised when someone
>>> comes it.  Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over it
>>> and
>>> saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Medic [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:54 AM
>>> To: cf-community
>>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't really think comparing it to breaking into a house is a very good
>>> analogy. I think it's probably more accurate to equate it to taking mail
>>> out
>>> of someone's mail box. I believe this is a felony. And if someone did it
>>> you
>>> would blame the victim by saying "well the mailbox wasn't even locked."
>>>
>>> I think it sucks that some kid who guesses a password gets time, but it's
>> a
>>> crime and a massive, premeditated invasion of privacy. We need to protect
>>> that privacy, especially now as we're losing more and more of it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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