OK as part of what I did with the Canadian Armed Forces, I had the opportunity to fire both the Browning 9mm HiPower and the m1911 pistols. My own preference is the Browning 9mm. I found it far more controllable than the m1911. I think that in those situations where I had trained for, the Browning was a far more capable weapon. I think I would have been more likely to walk out of the situation with the Browning than the .45cal pistol.
larry On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > The .45 acp is a "slow" moving round...slow enough that it is ineffective > against body armor as far as penetration goes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:57 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment > > > Lots of bullets that would go through a person wouldn't knock them > backwards. In fact, the opposite is true. The higher the muzzle > velocity of the bullet, the faster it will enter the body, the quicker > it will overcome resistance of the flesh/bone it is going through. You > are more likely to knock someone down who is wearing a bulletproof > vest than you are someone who is not because the vest does a good job > of redistributing the force over a broader area. > > If you really want to knock someone backwards, hit them with something > large and blunt. You'd have a better chance with something large > caliber and low velocity because of the way that momentum transfer > works. > > Judah > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Eric Roberts > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Just because there are no videos (or none that I can find) on the net >> doesn't mean it is not true. Again...go fire one and you will understand. >> Something that can penetrate 27 inches of ballistic gel is packing a heavy >> punch. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:35 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Daily Kos: Why liberals should love the Second Amendment >> >> >> Still waiting for any kind of proof I am wrong. You continue to tell >> me I am wrong, yet offer no proof. I have not found anything that >> supports your statement that some guns (specifically the m1911) can >> knock a person 'back a few feet' when they are hit with a bullet fired >> from said weapon. >> >> I can surmise that your lack of posting links to such evidence would >> indicate you have not looked or found such evidence. Either way, you >> continue to talk out your ass with nothing to support your position. >> >> I am asking...no, I am begging..for you to provide any proof at all to >> support your claim, to prove I am wrong - yet, you will not or cannot >> do so. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:322922 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
