I am in an at will state.  The state's department of Labor is also very
helpful.  I was fired from a job once and it turned out they were doing all
sorts of illegal stuff, like writing me up without telling me, keeping a
"little black book" on me, etc...all in violation of IL state laws.  When
they fired me and HR didn't do anything (I think they were just pretty
ignorant of IL state laws...like for instance when I demanded to see my
personnel records, they refused, which is a violation of IL state law...they
were originally from California), I called the IL DOL and they called them
and not only did I get my job back, but my manager lost hers, I was
transferred to a different store and promoted.

Another time I had to deal with the DOL, the company I was working for
docked your pay $1/hour for the week if you called in sick.  That's a huge
violation of the law and they got away with it because most of the people
they hire are young kids that don't know any better.  I told them that it
was illegal and that they need to rescind that...I had a pretty good
relationship with the owner.  When they refused, I told them that I was
contacting the DOL and after they talked to the DOL, I got a check for the
wages owed to me.

Eric
-----Original Message-----
From: Erika L. Rich [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 1:05 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Workplace bullying or mobbing


Do you know how many states are "at will" states?

Means that you can be fired for any reason whatsoever.

Know how many people have complained to an HR department, and then
subsequently been fired not too long afterward? Even WITH "whistleblower"
laws in effect?

The number would astound us I assure you.


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Cameron Childress
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Jacob <[email protected]> wrote:
> > HR is there for the company, not the employee.
>
> If you come to HR and tell them someone is harassing you, and they do
> nothing about it, you can sue the crap out of the company.  They may
> be employed by the company, but they are not strictly there on the
> company's behalf.  They are also advocates of the employees and as
> Hatton said, they are there to enforce compliance with the law as
> well.
>
> I would always go to HR before a union. unless you are reporting an HR
> employee's misbehavior I guess.  Even then I would just go above HR to
> someone higher up about it.
>
> -Cameron
>
> ...
>
> 



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