Here is another issue I have with the points you have made. You seem to be OK with labeling those in the 'Tea Party Express' as being racist because their leader has made racist statements. And you make a good point about being able to leave a group. But another viable course of action would be to try and make changes to the group from the inside. Which, maybe they did?
It is entirely possible that his racist statements may have caused others in the group to say...'whoa, hold on there Mike, that is not really what we are all about, why don't you just step aside'. Would it be fair to still label these people as 'racist'? I would say 'no'. Now that Mike Williams is no longer their leader, can we assume they are not racist? Again, I stand by the statement that it is not fair to label or stereotype members of a group based on the actions or words of other members or even its leader. On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Btw, I just looked up Mike Williams and it seems he stepped down as > head of the Tea Party Express. That is certainly a positive > development but the points are still valid for purposes of discussion. > > Cheers, > Judah > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: >> I'm sorta there with you. The difference is that I'm not sure what >> group Al Sharpton is a leader of. If Al Sharpton was the recognized >> leader of "Racebaiters for Christ" or something then I would say that, >> yeah, that group is going to be painted (both good and bad) by the >> actions and words of Al Sharpton. Maybe Al Sharpton thinks he speaks >> for me, I don't know. But I can say that I'm not a member of a group >> he heads. The example I gave, of the Tea Party Express and its leader >> Mike Williams, is an actual group with membership that raises and >> spends money for political purposes. It would be like if Al Sharpton >> became President of the NAACP and politicians were taking NAACP money >> and the NAACP was organizing events for them. In that case, would it >> be fair to make judgements about the NAACP and the candidates they are >> involved with based on the groups choice of President? I'd say that >> that isn't unreasonable. >> >> Cheers, >> Judah > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:325912 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
