I don't recall ever saying government is bad.

I would love to live in your world of absolutes. All cops are bad.
Only teachers can teach. Republicans are always wrong. Kind of takes
thinking out of the equation with attitudes like that.

You are still basing your opinion of a large group on your limited
experience. Before you criticize someone doing a thankless job, like
being a police officer, maybe you should walk a mile in their shoes. I
think, more than most based on my years in EMS, I have seen the shit
police officers have to put up with, and to be honest, they don't get
paid enough to deal with the scum bags they have to deal with at work
and the sanctimonious assholes they have to hear from outside of work.


On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Eric Roberts
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Is it any different from yours and many others attitudes here that
> government is bad?  Is it still hypocritical when pointed out by someone
> being hypocritical in the process?  When having officers abusing their power
> being more of the norm than the exception in my experience, it's not a
> prejudicial action.  Plus, as I believe Kris pointed out, being a cop is a
> job...a choice...unlike being gay or being black...that does tend to attract
> a certain type of person.  It has been my experience that it attracts the
> type of person that likes to use his badge as an ED treatment rather than
> going to the doctor and getting a prescription for Viagra.  Unfortunately,
> the number of cops (to include several family members who are cops) that I
> have encountered, that are cops that respect the rights of others and don't
> do as above can be counted one 1...maybe 2 hands.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 7:43 AM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: US Man refuses to answer Immigration questions.Apparently, he
> was right.
>
>
> To make it easier to understand my point, lets substitute the word
> 'cop' with Muslim or Jew or Democrat.
>
> Slice it any way you want it, you are still judging an entire group of
> people based on the words and actions of a few.
>
> Sorry, I find your attitude (and others, like Eric and Kirs) towards
> law enforcement to be hypocritical as you have all, at one time or
> another, pointed out that others on this list, myself included, have
> made disparaging remarks about an entire group of people based on the
> words and actions of a few members of that group, however, you have no
> issue doing that very same thing when it seems to fit your agenda.
>
> You seems to have issues with the way the system works, that does nto
> mean that all cops are 'bad'. So much for 'innocent until proven
> guilty'. With attitudes like this so prevalent, I would not want to be
> a law enforcement officer in this day and age
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Not the same thing at all. Being black or Hispanic is something you
>> don't have a choice about, being a cop is a job. There are processes
>> in place that are supposed to get rid of bad cops and they rarely do.
>> Give every black guy a badge, a gun, a union, a toothless internal
>> affairs department and a DA system that turns a blind eye and then you
>> can make that comparison.
>>
>> Judah
>>
>> On Saturday, September 18, 2010, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, if you get pulled over by a police officer for a traffic violation
>>> you will not answer any of his questions unless you have your lawyer
>>> with you?
>>>
>>> Either a) you are the world's best driver (and are not afraid of being
>>> pulled over) or b) you have more free time than this guy.
>>>
>>>  'Granted for every bad or corrupt cop we have there are probably 10
>>> or 15 good ones, but you have no way of telling which you're dealing
>>> with till it's too late.' Imagine if, in the previous sentence, you
>>> substituted the word 'cop' with 'muslim', 'african-american',
>>> 'hispanic', 'italian' or any other word used to describe any other
>>> group of people. I guess 'innocent until proven guilty' only covers
>>> those who are suspected of having committed a crime but not those who
>>> would arrest those suspects?
>>>
>>> Funny how it seems OK to judge an entire group of people based on the
>>> words and actions of a few for some groups, like law enforcement and
>>> Tea Party members, but not for other groups, like those who want to
>>> build an Islam cultural center and mosque near Ground Zero.
>>>
>>> The hypocrisy of those on this list (including from myself at times)
>>> would be funny were it not so sad.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Kris Sisk <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Rule number one when dealing with any type of law enforcement in the Us:
> answer no questions under any circumstances without a lawyer present. This
> isn't to be a dick or to waste time. It's because A) we have the right to
> refuse to answer questions here and B) there are a lot of bad cops here (not
> necessarily corrupt, though we've got those to) who will take the slightest
> excuse to arrest you. Granted for every bad or corrupt cop we have there are
> probably 10 or 15 good ones, but you have no way of telling which you're
> dealing with till it's too late. Honestly I'd do the same as this guy did.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> 

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