On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote: > > "I still think it's a meme." > > It's a book. With a Beck program, the audience is partly influenced by > emotion. Much harder in a book.
Books convey emotion wonderfully. Far better than video, IMO. I say the book is part of the meme because it's recent, and seems to be pushing this recent thought pattern. > "Ultimately it's probably the corporations behind it -- Big Money -- like a > twisted version of the 'twilight bark'." > > Of course they are. They want to make money by selling books. > > Or maybe you mean those nefarious mega-corps that control the government. > Then all I could say is they play both sides of center very well. They have the money needed to play all sides well. The only side they are on, is their own. And they're like people now, where their money == free speech, thanks to... um... well, I guess it's the Liberals who supported that? The commies on the supreme court? ... > "Makes sense. Sci-fi has a lot of 'futures' controlled by corps....And > crazy military governments, I guess." > > They do. It's probably what we are heading for. By the way, the fusion of > government and big business is Fascism. So we've been Fascist since the 80's? Seems like a weird definition of Fascism, to me. Where's the violence? Isn't that part of fascism? I think there's a word that has "corp" in it, that comes closer to the mark. > "Bush took us a lot closer to a crazy militaristic government than Obama > has, but the folks complaining now weren't then, when that was the right > time, compared to now." > > On Bush, how so? In what sense? Torture, habeas corpus, "first strike", phone taps, "my lawyer said I could do it", etc.? Religious belief influencing policy? Religious belief influencing scientific discovery? > On Obama, remember this quote: > > "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national > security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national > security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as > well-funded." Bush said the same-ish thing. And stuff actually came of it. Remember how "good citizens" were seeing terrorists everywhere? > Fortunately, this has come to naught. Give him a second term and we'll see > what happens. I don't see the sweeping change you do. But, as I, and other people have said before, "I wouldn't be surprised". People were primed for this crap by the last administration. "We need to be safe, more than to be free." They don't give the power back willingly. But come on, remember water-boarding? We were there, dude, and the people bitching about the loss of Real America didn't say squat, and in fact, cheered on the pretty lame-ass, destructive-to-american-spirit policies. In the UK, they're having citizens watch the CCTV cams for suspicious activity. Super-awesome idea, that. Fear the next terrorist attack. But not because of the violence, but rather, because of what we'll do to ourselves in the name of making us safe. > Can you remember other countries that had civilian paramilitary > organizations? Obviously, there was the Hitler Youth. Look up the CCC > sometime. Then there's the American > Legion<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legion>(obviously, this > organization has changed a lot over the years): ... Are you seriously saying we've got another Hitler Youth on our hands? Or are close to something similar? Meeeeeemmmmmeeeeee. =) I guess the militias teaming up with the Tea Party heads is sorta like that. All anti-immigration and whathaveyou. Mass insanity is freaking awesome to behold. This Socialist, Nazi, and eugenic talk, is really out there-- I'm not saying it's not true, but it is *way* out there... what do you think about remote viewing? I'd sell you a widget, but Obama is in office. Have a nice day and beware of socialism! That still cracked me up. :) :Den -- It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book. Friedri ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:328583 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
