You are thinking of corporatism Den, which is a synonym for fascism...just
less of a charged term.

Eric

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:55 PM, denstar <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Jerry Barnes wrote:
> >
> > "I still think it's a meme."
> >
> > It's a book.  With a Beck program, the audience is partly influenced by
> > emotion.  Much harder in a book.
>
> Books convey emotion wonderfully.  Far better than video, IMO.
>
> I say the book is part of the meme because it's recent, and seems to
> be pushing this recent thought pattern.
>
> > "Ultimately it's probably the corporations behind it --  Big Money --
> like a
> > twisted version of the 'twilight bark'."
> >
> > Of course they are.  They want to make money by selling books.
> >
> > Or maybe you mean those nefarious mega-corps that control the government.
> > Then all I could say is they play both sides of center very well.
>
> They have the money needed to play all sides well.  The only side they
> are on, is their own.
>
> And they're like people now, where their money == free speech, thanks
> to... um... well, I guess it's the Liberals who supported that?  The
> commies on the supreme court?
>
> ...
> > "Makes sense.  Sci-fi has a lot of 'futures' controlled by corps....And
> > crazy military governments, I guess."
> >
> > They do.  It's probably what we are heading for.  By the way, the fusion
> of
> > government and big business is Fascism.
>
> So we've been Fascist since the 80's?  Seems like a weird definition
> of Fascism, to me.
>
> Where's the violence?  Isn't that part of fascism?
>
> I think there's a word that has "corp" in it, that comes closer to the
> mark.
>
> > "Bush took us a lot closer to a crazy militaristic government than Obama
> > has, but the folks complaining now weren't then, when that was the right
> > time, compared to now."
> >
> > On Bush, how so?  In what sense?
>
> Torture, habeas corpus, "first strike", phone taps, "my lawyer said I
> could do it", etc.?  Religious belief influencing policy?  Religious
> belief influencing scientific discovery?
>
> > On Obama, remember this quote:
> >
> > "We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the
> national
> > security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national
> > security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as
> > well-funded."
>
> Bush said the same-ish thing.  And stuff actually came of it.
> Remember how "good citizens" were seeing terrorists everywhere?
>
> > Fortunately, this has come to naught.   Give him a second term and we'll
> see
> > what happens.
>
> I don't see the sweeping change you do.  But, as I, and other people
> have said before, "I wouldn't be surprised".  People were primed for
> this crap by the last administration.  "We need to be safe, more than
> to be free."
>
> They don't give the power back willingly.
>
> But come on, remember water-boarding?  We were there, dude, and the
> people bitching about the loss of Real America didn't say squat, and
> in fact, cheered on the pretty lame-ass,
> destructive-to-american-spirit policies.
>
> In the UK, they're having citizens watch the CCTV cams for suspicious
> activity.  Super-awesome idea, that.
>
> Fear the next terrorist attack.  But not because of the violence, but
> rather, because of what we'll do to ourselves in the name of making us
> safe.
>
> > Can you remember other countries that had civilian paramilitary
> > organizations?  Obviously, there was the Hitler Youth.  Look up the CCC
> > sometime.  Then there's the American
> > Legion<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legion>(obviously, this
> > organization has changed a lot over the years):
> ...
>
> Are you seriously saying we've got another Hitler Youth on our hands?
> Or are close to something similar?
>
> Meeeeeemmmmmeeeeee.  =)
>
> I guess the militias teaming up with the Tea Party heads is sorta like
> that.  All anti-immigration and whathaveyou.
>
> Mass insanity is freaking awesome to behold.  This Socialist, Nazi,
> and eugenic talk, is really out there--  I'm not saying it's not true,
> but it is *way* out there... what do you think about remote viewing?
>
> I'd sell you a widget, but Obama is in office.
> Have a nice day and beware of socialism!
>
> That still cracked me up.  :)
>
> :Den
>
> --
> It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book.
> Friedri
>
> 

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