I have recently made some trips out to some of the Indian mounds in Indiana
and Ohio and was just awestruck at the scope of these complexes and mounds.
I studied this stuff (I was 3 years into a degree in Anthropology) in school
for 3 years before switching to computer science and that was nothing to
seeing these things in person.  Keeping in mind that they only had wood and
stone tools (no metallurgical technology) and no horses, they build some
really complex structures with pretty simple tools.  The Seip Mound near
Chillicothe, OH is about 50-60 ft tall.  One of the more famous Hopewell
artifacts, a clawed hand made from mica (that came from West Virginia) was
excavated out of this mound.  It is just amazing what people can do even
with very primitive technologies.  In Anderson, IN at Mounds State Park,
they have a mound complex from the Adena culture (slight older and
concurrent with the Hopewell) that accurately measures the solstices and
equinoxes as well as the rise of a star (I forget the name offhand).  For
primitives, they were pretty advanced. Fort Ancient in Oregonia, OH is an
18,000 square foot complex with 3 1/2 miles of earthen wall surrounding
it...some of which is still 20 ft tall. These mounds were something like
10-20 thousand years old, so I can just image what they looked like when
they were being maintained.  That would have been a truly impressive sight.

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 10:09 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: 5000 year old wooden door found buried in Zurich


Sorry about that, I didn't see the original reference.

That said, neolithic people of that time period have been well
studied. Also look a the equivalent of those groups now. Primitive
does not mean simple, or stupid. Only the level of technology is
different. That said, given the way it was put together, its no wonder
they were among the first metal users in Europe. You'd need good tools
to work wood that way. Either that or they didn't mind waiting a
couple of weeks for a really nicely worked door.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>
wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I wonder what happened?
>
> Someone shut it?
>
> A link would help.
>
>>
>> It seems that there were amazing architectural and engineering
>> abilities available from ancient times.
>>
>> How did we lose it?
>>
>> Is it because of the Dark Ages and the rise of Christianity, book
>> burning, hoarding of information by the church etc.?
>>
>> How did we lose so much knowledge?
>>
>> Why didn't something like the plans and methods for making this door
>> survive down through the ages (I'm sure it wasn't unique) ?
>>
>> 



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