On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:10 PM, denstar <[email protected]> wrote:

> No, I'm talking about removing the checks on power, and the idea that
> since they had the power already, we don't need the checks.  Maybe
> that was Rob's argument though.

I'm pretty sure he didn't say we don't need checks. You just don't
like the power when you think the holder is religious or something
like that.

> Do you mean nothing happened, or that it was just individuals and not "us"?

What you think happened didn't.

> You said the stuff that, didn't happen(?), was ok to do because it was
> only 3 people and they deserved it.  You, personally, said that.  In
> this very thread.

Water boarding isn't vigilante justice. We asked questions and got
answers. It was only used on three people and it worked. At the time
it wasn't considered torture. It's not like we went all Jack Baur on
them.

> I'm talking about putting, and keeping, that mentality in power.  Your
> brand of mentality.

What is my brand of mentality in your eyes?

> The chick deserved the head step.

I never said she deserved it, I said she suffered the consequences of
her own stupidity. It's like suicide by cop. remember the "Don't taze
me bro" scam? We live in a youtube word, Some people know how to play
it.

> The terrorists deserved the
> water-boarding.

The three guys we boarded deserved the death penalty. Waterboarding
them possibly saved thousands of lives. Colateral damage I say. I'd
kick the fuckers in the head a few times.

> That it should be *legal* to listen in on citizens
> telephone calls (even with the caveat that it's only the over-seas
> ones).

I still don't get this argument. I talk with friends that I know are
involved with illegal activity or at least used to be. I expect my
conversation to be listened to because of it. Why are your panties in
a wad? Do you think nobody you talk to has a wiretap warrant on them?
Why is it different?

> That Religion is getting "pushed out" of the Government.

I'm lost here. Do you think I want religion in government?

> That
> the government should be deciding who lives and who dies, and what
> constitutes "life".  &c.

Are you talking about the deat Penalty, Abortion or Obamacare?

> Because fuckers like you try to justify the crap instead of just
> saying it's wrong.  :)

I don't cry over spilled milk, but if the government is wrong I try
and make a stink. When I do, you ridicule me and then bitch that I'm
not crying when you cry.

> I say fucker in an endearing way.  I consider you a friend, tho our
> viewpoints differ.

We are and they do. We'll never agree but it's fun 

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