If it's a scientific theory it's fact.

I think what you're missing is that a theory might not predict ALL facts, but 
that doesn't make it less of a fact.

Again, newtons law of gravity is not invalidated in total, just below a certain 
accuracy where the theory of relativity is now required.

But newtons law, above that level, is still a fact!





On Sep 14, 2011, at 7:44 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't agree with that.  E.g. Quantum mechanics is a theory which predicts 
>> how electrons behave, which is basis of how your computer works.
>> 
>> Thus if we agree that your computer as a working system is a fact then then 
>> framework used to get that fact must also be a fact.
> 
> We agree the sun appears almost every day yet it is not the center of
> the universe.
> 
>> You can get more fuzzy and say that newtons theory of gravity predicts facts 
>> above a certain granularity.  Thus above that level it's a fact.
> 
> And what's wrong with condition based rules?
> 
>> Take the fuzzy fact concept one step farther: the theory of relativity.
>> 
>> Is gravity a fact?  Then how would you explain superfluidity?  It defies 
>> gravity.
> 
> I don't know what it is.
> 
>> If scientific theories aren't facts then there are no facts.
> 
> I'm not saying they can't be facts, just that the label doesn't guarantee it 
> so.
> 
> 

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