Yes, I know..and I know you know...I'm not discounting your definitions of
scientific theory, you have it down.

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:12 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Gravity is a law, evolution is a theory. Since evolution has been
> tested more successfully and it has much more weight than say
> Phlogiston does. Not all theories are created equal.
>
> This from Wiki (I know wiki can be wrong):
> Some key phrases:
> ... ensuring it is probably a good approximation, if not totally correct.
> ... rather than asserting certainty.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
>
> Essential criteria
> The defining characteristic of a scientific theory is that it makes
> falsifiable or testable predictions. The relevance and specificity of
> those predictions determine how potentially useful the theory is. A
> would-be theory that makes no predictions that can be observed is not
> a useful theory. Predictions not sufficiently specific to be tested
> are similarly not useful. In both cases, the term "theory" is hardly
> applicable.
> In practice a body of descriptions of knowledge is usually only called
> a theory once it has a minimum empirical basis, according to certain
> criteria:
>
> - It is consistent with pre-existing theory, to the extent the
> pre-existing theory was experimentally verified, though it will often
> show pre-existing theory to be wrong in an exact sense.
>
> - It is supported by many strands of evidence, rather than a single
> foundation, ensuring it is probably a good approximation, if not
> totally correct.
>
> Non-essential criteria
> Additionally, a theory is generally only taken seriously if:
>
> - It is tentative, correctable, and dynamic in allowing for changes as
> new facts are discovered, rather than asserting certainty.
>
> - It is among the most parsimonious explanations, sparing in proposed
> entities or explanations—commonly referred to as passing the Occam's
> razor test. (Since there is no generally accepted objective definition
> of parsimony, this is not a strict criteria, but some theories are
> much less economical than others.)
>
> This is true of such established theories as special and general
> relativity, quantum mechanics, plate tectonics, evolution, etc.
> Theories considered scientific meet at least most, but ideally all, of
> these extra criteria.
>
> Theories do not have to be perfectly accurate to be scientifically useful.
>
> - The predictions made by Classical mechanics are known to be
> inaccurate, but they are sufficiently good approximations in most
> circumstances that they are still very useful and widely used in place
> of more accurate but mathematically difficult theories.
>
> - In chemistry, there are many acid-base theories which, while
> providing highly divergent explanations of what "really" makes acids
> acids and bases bases, they are very useful for describing the
> phenomenology of certain chemical reactions which fall under the
> concept of "acid-base reaction". In a sense, the notion of generalized
> acid-base reaction is not precisely defined, and therefore theories
> about what gives rise to acid-base chemistry are "inexact";
> nonetheless, they are useful scientific theories.
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 8:57 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Because we seek consistency in thought and argument.
> >
> > If one scientific theory is suspect simply because it contains the word
> > "theory"....then all of them are.
> >
> > The simple fact is that what separates the evolution theory from other
> > theories in science is that it has a religious implication. No one doubts
> > gravity because falling apples don't challenge people's comfort stories
> > about benevolent ghosts.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:49 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Why is it always all or nothing with this group?
> >>
> >> .
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:17 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > ....lest you die thinking gravity doesn't exist, simply because it
> >> > is not a "proven fact".
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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