You're very caught up on proven theory vs extrapolated theory.

Hawings theories are not proven they're extrapolated from general relativity.  
An example is his theory on the event horizons of black holes.  Pretty tough to 
test that right?  You can't go out to the nearest Black hole, toss something in 
there and measure what happens.



On Sep 22, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> I disagree, not only is a postulate a theory, all theories are postulates.
> 
> Since you won't believe me or wiki I refer you to Stephen Hawkins:
> http://www.suite101.com/content/hawkings-definition-of-scientific-theories-about-the-universe-a292398
> 
> If you still disagree, take it up with him.
> 
> .
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> No, phlogiston was never detected a single time in any any experiment ever.
>> 
>> If you believe this is not the case, find a single test that determines the 
>> physical construct and properties of it.  ( hint: there isn't one )
>> 
>> in addition "air" is the perfect analogy because it was part of phlogistic 
>> theory!
>> 
>> To be very clear, phlogiston was only ever a postulate.  Period.  A 
>> postulate is NOT a theory nor a fact.
>> 
>> I'm sure the wiki, if it exists, makes this all clear.  If not google it and 
>> you will find further definitions and types of theories and how they differ 
>> from postulates.
>> 
>> You are confusing the definition of theory and complicating that confusion 
>> with comparing systems to elements, and testing for behavior vs physical 
>> structure.
>> 
>> You have good questions, and this is a technical topic
> 
> 

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