But you can't. I have not studied this in a while but I doubt this point has
changed -- an event horizon is a limit, used here in the mathematical sense
of the word. Anything that goes encounters it goes *in* and there's no way
to perceive it from the outside after that, because of the nature of the
process of perception.

This going-inward-ness can be visualized -- and the professor did show my
physics class something that demonstrated this -- but the proof is
mathematical not empirical.

I looked for a link that shows this, but everything I found assumes
knowledge of calculus. My recollection though supports the statement that a
limit that goes to infinity like that will get closer and closer to zero but
never reach it. There is no limit to the number of digits that can go after
a decimal point after all.

Empirical evidence would require that something measurable return out. It
doesn't because there is no end to a limit. Cosmology is another area where
mathematical proofs may exist but empirical evidence cannot.

On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> You're getting closer, if you could test and prove it it would be a law.
>
> .
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > You're very caught up on proven theory vs extrapolated theory.
> >
> > Hawings theories are not proven they're extrapolated from general
> relativity.  An example is his theory on the event horizons of black holes.
>  Pretty tough to test that right?  You can't go out to the nearest Black
> hole, toss something in there and measure what happens.
> >
> >
>
> 

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