It's going to be rough. Not only is the task really big, it is also
complicated in ways we are still trying to figure out. That's part of
the frustration I have with climate change deniers. They see real
issues with climate science (most science, really) because we have
conflicting studies, gradual refinement of estimates and models,
research muddied by corporate hacks and egotistical agenda-driven
idealogues and they say "well, it's not 100% clear cut so it must not
be happening".  It's the wrong conclusion, of course, but the issues
that help drive it are real and are all part the difficulty in
tackling the actual problems. We have a pretty good handle on the fact
that we need to curb carbon emissions and methane emissions. But
beyond the idea that we need to stop making things worse (which is
hard enough), getting a good handle on what we can do to push things
back toward a more human-friendly trajectory is a really, really tough
call.

We need to learn a whole lot more real quick and combine that with a
political will to make serious changes and investment. History says
that the likelihood of those two things coming together in conjunction
with one another is a bit of a long shot.

Judah

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:50 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>
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>> http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/how-ignorance-greed-and-ideology-are-warping-science-and-hurting-democracy-20111115#ixzz1fgCiFxdc
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>>
> Turns out you were right about man-made climate change. Geo-engineering
> projects are going on all over the place to stabilize the environment. It's
> expensive and I have a feeling it's going to get even more expensive over
> time. Best to swallow the bitter pill now and pay for it.
>
>
> 

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