I have real issues with this so-called science: http://di2.nu/foia/foia2011/mail/4195.txt
>-----Original Message----->From: Phil Jones [mailto:[email protected]]>Sent: >05 January 2009 16:18>To: Johns, Tim; Folland, Chris>Cc: Smith, Doug; Johns, >Tim>Subject: Re: FW: Temperatures in 2009>>> Tim, Chris,> I hope you're >not right about the lack of warming lasting> till about 2020. I'd rather >hoped to see the earlier Met Office> press release with Doug's paper that >said something like -> half the years to 2014 would exceed the warmest year >currently on > record, 1998!> Still a way to go before 2014.>> I seem >to be getting an email a week from skeptics saying> where's the warming >gone. I know the warming is on the decadal> scale, but it would be nice to >wear their smug grins away.>> Chris - I presume the Met Office> >continually monitor the weather forecasts.> Maybe because I'm in my 50s, >but the language used in the forecasts seems> a bit over the top re the >cold. Where I've been for the last 20 > days (in Norfolk)> it doesn't seem >to have been as cold as the forecasts.>> I've just submitted a paper on >the UHI for London - it is 1.6 deg > C for the LWC.> It comes out to 2.6 deg >C for night-time minimums. The BBC forecasts has> the countryside 5-6 deg C >cooler than city centres on recent nights. > The paper> shows the UHI hasn't >got any worse since 1901 (based on St James Park> and Rothamsted).>> >Cheers> Phil On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's going to be rough. Not only is the task really big, it is also > complicated in ways we are still trying to figure out. That's part of > the frustration I have with climate change deniers. They see real > issues with climate science (most science, really) because we have > conflicting studies, gradual refinement of estimates and models, > research muddied by corporate hacks and egotistical agenda-driven > idealogues and they say "well, it's not 100% clear cut so it must not > be happening". It's the wrong conclusion, of course, but the issues > that help drive it are real and are all part the difficulty in > tackling the actual problems. We have a pretty good handle on the fact > that we need to curb carbon emissions and methane emissions. But > beyond the idea that we need to stop making things worse (which is > hard enough), getting a good handle on what we can do to push things > back toward a more human-friendly trajectory is a really, really tough > call. > > We need to learn a whole lot more real quick and combine that with a > political will to make serious changes and investment. History says > that the likelihood of those two things coming together in conjunction > with one another is ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:344304 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
