Science will find the truth eventually. Meanwhile, I see the truth in everyday life, everywhere I look. It's all around us, everywhere. The love of my wife and children, the passing of the seasons, the comings and going of the world.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have real issues with this so-called science: > > http://di2.nu/foia/foia2011/mail/4195.txt > > >-----Original Message----->From: Phil Jones [mailto:[email protected]]>Sent: > 05 January 2009 16:18>To: Johns, Tim; Folland, Chris>Cc: Smith, Doug; > Johns, Tim>Subject: Re: FW: Temperatures in 2009>>> Tim, Chris,> I > hope you're not right about the lack of warming lasting> till about 2020. > I'd rather hoped to see the earlier Met Office> press release with Doug's > paper that said something like -> half the years to 2014 would exceed the > warmest year currently on > record, 1998!> Still a way to go before > 2014.>> I seem to be getting an email a week from skeptics saying> > where's the warming gone. I know the warming is on the decadal> scale, > but it would be nice to wear their smug grins away.>> Chris - I presume > the Met Office> continually monitor the weather forecasts.> Maybe > because I'm in my 50s, but the language used in the forecasts seems> a > bit over the top re the cold. Where I've been for the last 20 > days (in > Norfolk)> it doesn't seem to have been as cold as the forecasts.>> > I've just submitted a paper on the UHI for London - it is 1.6 deg > C for > the LWC.> It comes out to 2.6 deg C for night-time minimums. The BBC > forecasts has> the countryside 5-6 deg C cooler than city centres on > recent nights. > The paper> shows the UHI hasn't got any worse since 1901 > (based on St James Park> and Rothamsted).>> Cheers> Phil > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > It's going to be rough. Not only is the task really big, it is also > > complicated in ways we are still trying to figure out. That's part of > > the frustration I have with climate change deniers. They see real > > issues with climate science (most science, really) because we have > > conflicting studies, gradual refinement of estimates and models, > > research muddied by corporate hacks and egotistical agenda-driven > > idealogues and they say "well, it's not 100% clear cut so it must not > > be happening". It's the wrong conclusion, of course, but the issues > > that help drive it are real and are all part the difficulty in > > tackling the actual problems. We have a pretty good handle on the fact > > that we need to curb carbon emissions and methane emissions. But > > beyond the idea that we need to stop making things worse (which is > > hard enough), getting a good handle on what we can do to push things > > back toward a more human-friendly trajectory is a really, really tough > > call. > > > > We need to learn a whole lot more real quick and combine that with a > > political will to make serious changes and investment. History says > > that the likelihood of those two things coming together in conjunction > > with one another is > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:344305 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
