Please show me where I said it was, I must have missed that. Do you not find it alarming that so many people die from the use of an item that is not designed solely with the purpose of killing?
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Eric Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Strawman/red herring... a car ia not an item designed solely with the > purpose of killing. Nice try... > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Eric Roberts >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > it's a lot harder to kill multiple people with a knife than it is to fire >> > off several rounds from a firearm. talk about red herrings...you just >> > stated a years worth of that catch... >> >> And its even easier to run them over with a car, yet I don't hear you >> clamoring to ban automobiles. In 2009, automobile related fatalities >> accounted for 11.1 deaths per 100,000 people - >> http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx . What do you propose we >> do about that? Surely if the death rate from fire arms alarms you, the >> death rate from automobiles should be equally alarming. >> >> > >> > The idea that increased gun related suicides is a measure of increased >> gun >> > ownership in a state is not my creation. That came form the CDC. Just >> > because it flies in the face of your NRA worship doesn't make it false >> >> Nice. I don't agree with you so I must 'worship' the NRA. And here I >> almost forgot how wonderful life is in the world of absolutes that you >> live in. >> >> > >> > Pot...Kettle...your statement is 100% anecdotal. >> >> Not denying I said anything anecdotal (and admitted to doing so in >> another message), but can you clarify to what exactly are you >> referring? >> >> > >> > It has nothing to do with total suicides...just gun suicides. please >> > rectify your rectal cranial inversion Scott. >> >> Also nice to see that you penchant for name calling has not changed. >> So refreshing..... >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Again something I'll have to dig up but from what I remember there >> >> isn't a corresponding relationship between knives and homicide rates >> >> if firearms are not as available. >> >> >> >> 2 possible reasons, the impulsive nature of firearm use, and with a >> >> knife you have to be face to face with the person. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Who is to say that the perpetrator would not have harmed these >> >> > students in some other way? Liek with a knife. maybe we should ban >> >> > knives, too. All of them, even 'butter' knives. They can kill people >> >> > you know. >> >> > >> >> > Also, we should ban cars. Cars kill people. Every day...hell probably >> >> > every hour. >> >> > >> >> > Wait...I know its not the guns or the knives or the cars, its the >> >> > people! People are the common denominator there...lets get rid of all >> >> > the people!!!! >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Eric Roberts >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/shooting-reported-at-ohio-high-school/?hpt=hp_t1 >> >> >> >> >> >> There would be four students without gunshot wounds if we had tighter >> >> gun >> >> >> control laws. This has nothing to do with criminals. A minor should >> >> not >> >> >> have easy access to a firearm like this. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Eric Roberts < >> >> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> it would be a lot harder for criminals to get guns if they were not >> so >> >> >>> readily available. Would it stop the flow completely...no...but it >> >> would >> >> >>> certainly reduce the hemorrhaging... Look at what is going on in >> >> states >> >> >>> like AZ where i can sell you a gun, as an individual, with no >> >> background >> >> >>> checks or anything. If i were a criminal, I would be making regular >> >> trips >> >> >>> to AZ and have a whole bunch of legally obtained weapons. Nothing >> >> wrong >> >> >>> with making all gun sales having a required background check and >> having >> >> >>> cool down periods. That is just counterproductive. With laws like >> >> what >> >> >>> they have in AZ...we may as well just give guns to criminals. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> The logical fallacy is that if guns were not available to citizens >> for >> >> >>>> their protection, criminals would not have guns. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> On 27 February 2012 11:15, Eric Roberts < >> >> [email protected] >> >> >>>> >wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> > >> >> >>>> > If there weren't guns on the street...or they were not as readily >> >> >>>> > available, people wouldn't be getting >> >> >>>> > shot....particularly kids in schools. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:347502 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
