Should we just start calling you Scarecrow?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Please show me where I said it was, I must have missed that.
>
> Do you not find it alarming that so many people die from the use of an
> item that is not designed solely with the purpose of killing?
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Strawman/red herring... a car ia not an item designed solely with the
> > purpose of killing.  Nice try...
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Eric Roberts
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > it's a lot harder to kill multiple people with a knife than it is to
> fire
> >> > off several rounds from a firearm.  talk about red herrings...you just
> >> > stated a years worth of that catch...
> >>
> >> And its even easier to run them over with a car, yet I don't hear you
> >> clamoring to ban automobiles. In 2009, automobile related fatalities
> >> accounted for 11.1 deaths per 100,000 people -
> >> http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx . What do you propose we
> >> do about that? Surely if the death rate from fire arms alarms you, the
> >> death rate from automobiles should be equally alarming.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The idea that increased gun related suicides is a measure of increased
> >> gun
> >> > ownership in a state is not my creation.  That came form the CDC.
>  Just
> >> > because it flies in the face of your NRA worship doesn't make it false
> >>
> >> Nice. I don't agree with you so I must 'worship' the NRA. And here I
> >> almost forgot how wonderful life is in the world of absolutes that you
> >> live in.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Pot...Kettle...your statement is 100% anecdotal.
> >>
> >> Not denying I said anything anecdotal (and admitted to doing so in
> >> another message), but can you clarify to what exactly are you
> >> referring?
> >>
> >> >
> >> > It has nothing to do with total suicides...just gun suicides.  please
> >> > rectify your rectal cranial inversion Scott.
> >>
> >> Also nice to see that you penchant for name calling has not changed.
> >> So refreshing.....
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Larry C. Lyons <
> [email protected]
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Again something I'll have to dig up but from what I remember there
> >> >> isn't a corresponding relationship between knives and homicide rates
> >> >> if firearms are not as available.
> >> >>
> >> >> 2 possible reasons, the impulsive nature of firearm use, and with a
> >> >> knife you have to be face to face with the person.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Who is to say that the perpetrator would not have harmed these
> >> >> > students in some other way? Liek with a knife. maybe we should ban
> >> >> > knives, too. All of them, even 'butter' knives. They can kill
> people
> >> >> > you know.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Also, we should ban cars. Cars kill people. Every day...hell
> probably
> >> >> > every hour.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Wait...I know its not the guns or the knives or the cars, its the
> >> >> > people! People are the common denominator there...lets get rid of
> all
> >> >> > the people!!!!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Eric Roberts
> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/shooting-reported-at-ohio-high-school/?hpt=hp_t1
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> There would be four students without gunshot wounds if we had
> tighter
> >> >> gun
> >> >> >> control laws.  This has nothing to do with criminals.  A minor
> should
> >> >> not
> >> >> >> have easy access to a firearm like this.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Eric Roberts <
> >> >> >> [email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> it would be a lot harder for criminals to get guns if they were
> not
> >> so
> >> >> >>> readily available.  Would it stop the flow completely...no...but
> it
> >> >> would
> >> >> >>> certainly reduce the hemorrhaging...  Look at what is going on in
> >> >> states
> >> >> >>> like AZ where i can sell you a gun, as an individual, with no
> >> >> background
> >> >> >>> checks or anything.  If i were a criminal, I would be making
> regular
> >> >> trips
> >> >> >>> to AZ and have a whole bunch of legally obtained weapons.
>  Nothing
> >> >> wrong
> >> >> >>> with making all gun sales having a required background check and
> >> having
> >> >> >>> cool down periods.  That is just counterproductive.  With laws
> like
> >> >> what
> >> >> >>> they have in AZ...we may as well just give guns to criminals.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Vivec <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> The logical fallacy is that if guns were not available to
> citizens
> >> for
> >> >> >>>> their protection, criminals would not have guns.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On 27 February 2012 11:15, Eric Roberts <
> >> >> [email protected]
> >> >> >>>> >wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >>>> > If there weren't guns on the street...or they were not as
> readily
> >> >> >>>> > available, people wouldn't be getting
> >> >> >>>> > shot....particularly kids in schools.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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