Strawman/red herring... a car ia not an item designed solely with the purpose of killing. Nice try...
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Eric Roberts > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > it's a lot harder to kill multiple people with a knife than it is to fire > > off several rounds from a firearm. talk about red herrings...you just > > stated a years worth of that catch... > > And its even easier to run them over with a car, yet I don't hear you > clamoring to ban automobiles. In 2009, automobile related fatalities > accounted for 11.1 deaths per 100,000 people - > http://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Main/index.aspx . What do you propose we > do about that? Surely if the death rate from fire arms alarms you, the > death rate from automobiles should be equally alarming. > > > > > The idea that increased gun related suicides is a measure of increased > gun > > ownership in a state is not my creation. That came form the CDC. Just > > because it flies in the face of your NRA worship doesn't make it false > > Nice. I don't agree with you so I must 'worship' the NRA. And here I > almost forgot how wonderful life is in the world of absolutes that you > live in. > > > > > Pot...Kettle...your statement is 100% anecdotal. > > Not denying I said anything anecdotal (and admitted to doing so in > another message), but can you clarify to what exactly are you > referring? > > > > > It has nothing to do with total suicides...just gun suicides. please > > rectify your rectal cranial inversion Scott. > > Also nice to see that you penchant for name calling has not changed. > So refreshing..... > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> Again something I'll have to dig up but from what I remember there > >> isn't a corresponding relationship between knives and homicide rates > >> if firearms are not as available. > >> > >> 2 possible reasons, the impulsive nature of firearm use, and with a > >> knife you have to be face to face with the person. > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > Who is to say that the perpetrator would not have harmed these > >> > students in some other way? Liek with a knife. maybe we should ban > >> > knives, too. All of them, even 'butter' knives. They can kill people > >> > you know. > >> > > >> > Also, we should ban cars. Cars kill people. Every day...hell probably > >> > every hour. > >> > > >> > Wait...I know its not the guns or the knives or the cars, its the > >> > people! People are the common denominator there...lets get rid of all > >> > the people!!!! > >> > > >> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Eric Roberts > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> > http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/27/shooting-reported-at-ohio-high-school/?hpt=hp_t1 > >> >> > >> >> There would be four students without gunshot wounds if we had tighter > >> gun > >> >> control laws. This has nothing to do with criminals. A minor should > >> not > >> >> have easy access to a firearm like this. > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Eric Roberts < > >> >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> it would be a lot harder for criminals to get guns if they were not > so > >> >>> readily available. Would it stop the flow completely...no...but it > >> would > >> >>> certainly reduce the hemorrhaging... Look at what is going on in > >> states > >> >>> like AZ where i can sell you a gun, as an individual, with no > >> background > >> >>> checks or anything. If i were a criminal, I would be making regular > >> trips > >> >>> to AZ and have a whole bunch of legally obtained weapons. Nothing > >> wrong > >> >>> with making all gun sales having a required background check and > having > >> >>> cool down periods. That is just counterproductive. With laws like > >> what > >> >>> they have in AZ...we may as well just give guns to criminals. > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The logical fallacy is that if guns were not available to citizens > for > >> >>>> their protection, criminals would not have guns. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On 27 February 2012 11:15, Eric Roberts < > >> [email protected] > >> >>>> >wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > > >> >>>> > If there weren't guns on the street...or they were not as readily > >> >>>> > available, people wouldn't be getting > >> >>>> > shot....particularly kids in schools. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:347496 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
