I will add to this fascinating discussion that I have noticed a pattern
among my students.

The ones who try the hardest, don't complain, and are generally a pleasure
to work with are the ones paying for their education themselves (most
adults returning for additional education).

Those that don't give a damn are usually those whose parents or someone
else is picking up the check.

I highly encourage my brighter students to check out computer and statistic
programs.  Not many are interested.  I seem to have an unusually high
number wanting to get into social work though.


J

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Because this massive of accumulation of debt was predicted, because it was
foreseeable, because it was unnecessary, because it was the result of
willful and reckless disregard for the warnings that were given and for the
fundamentals of economic management, I am voting against a debt limit
increase - Joe Biden


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