"In every state budget I've worked with the last 20 years all of the items
you listed as increasing have been cut - Head Start Programs, welfare, etc."

Really?  Medical care has been cut?  Public education has been cut (I
remember many states bitching about No Child Left Behind being an unfunded
mandate increasing costs)?  How about the number of programs?  Have the
number of social programs been cut or have they grown?  You haven't seen
any of the numbers about the impact of illegal immigrants on social
programs?

I understand that many of these programs have been cut over the last five
years, but the 25 before that?  Nah.


"Prison systems fall under law enforcement or judicial and certainly cannot
be considered a social program. "

If you say so.  Seems to me paying to warehouse and feed people is a social
program.  Regardless, it's obvious that the prisons aren't working and the
expense has to be paid for with funds from somewhere else.  If you want, we
can see social program and criminal programs.  It doesn't change the
argument.


"So show me any evidence you have that social programs have exploded. "

I showed you were to find the numbers.   If you don't want to use it so be
it.  I don't care either way.


"Just repeating it is not going to make it true."

No, being true is going to make it true.


Anyway, the expansion has stopped due to the financial situation of the
last five years and cuts have been happening, especially in CA. So, the
numbers are continuing to change.


J

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Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad reputation.
- Henry Kissinger

Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,
go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton


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