not in the way he means though...

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 8:09 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I would say that the explosion of incarceration caused by the immoral war
> on drugs could be considered a "social" program.
> On Jun 23, 2012 10:52 AM, "Jerry Barnes" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > "In every state budget I've worked with the last 20 years all of the
> items
> > you listed as increasing have been cut - Head Start Programs, welfare,
> > etc."
> >
> > Really?  Medical care has been cut?  Public education has been cut (I
> > remember many states bitching about No Child Left Behind being an
> unfunded
> > mandate increasing costs)?  How about the number of programs?  Have the
> > number of social programs been cut or have they grown?  You haven't seen
> > any of the numbers about the impact of illegal immigrants on social
> > programs?
> >
> > I understand that many of these programs have been cut over the last five
> > years, but the 25 before that?  Nah.
> >
> >
> > "Prison systems fall under law enforcement or judicial and certainly
> cannot
> > be considered a social program. "
> >
> > If you say so.  Seems to me paying to warehouse and feed people is a
> social
> > program.  Regardless, it's obvious that the prisons aren't working and
> the
> > expense has to be paid for with funds from somewhere else.  If you want,
> we
> > can see social program and criminal programs.  It doesn't change the
> > argument.
> >
> >
> > "So show me any evidence you have that social programs have exploded. "
> >
> > I showed you were to find the numbers.   If you don't want to use it so
> be
> > it.  I don't care either way.
> >
> >
> > "Just repeating it is not going to make it true."
> >
> > No, being true is going to make it true.
> >
> >
> > Anyway, the expansion has stopped due to the financial situation of the
> > last five years and cuts have been happening, especially in CA. So, the
> > numbers are continuing to change.
> >
> >
> > J
> >
> > -
> >
> > Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad
> reputation.
> > - Henry Kissinger
> >
> > Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the tunnel,
> > go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton
> >
> >
> >
>
> 

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