No, to help people it's ok to be hypocritical, if that's the only way you can do it......well...maybe not OK...but perhaps understandable.
And again, i don't think it's hypocritical to be against something, but still use it if you have to. I HATE the TSA searches at the airport, but if i want to fly on a plane, i have to subject myself to them. Does that make me a hypocrite? On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > So to gain political points back home its OK for him to be hypocritical. > > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I see that side of the argument too. > > > > But at some point, morality and the real world collide. if your > > constituents NEED something, something as important as a medical > > building.....how long do you stand by your principles, and at what cost > to > > the people you represent? > > > > At some point do you say: 'This whole fucking thing SUCKS, and I'm still > > against it, but as of today, the only way i can help my people, is to > > request funds blah blah' ?? > > > > I'm probably giving Ryan WAYYYYYY too much credit, and I doubt it went > down > > like this. But i can see a real life scenario where this would > > be....understandable, i guess. > > > > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> I find the cupcake analogy wrong. let me try one closer to how I see it. > >> > >> I am a vegan. i think all that is wrong with this country and the > >> world is people eating meat. > >> > >> I dont even want to talk to people who do. they are all bad bad people. > >> > >> what's that? you made some veal? and is that kobe beef in the tartar? > >> no, i've never tried whale meat. > >> > >> well, since you already made it.... > >> > >> The rhetoric specifically used by Ryan is a MORAL argument. > >> > >> So either he holds to his moral beliefs or he doesn't. To me it is that > >> simple. > >> > >> If he had made other arguments, based on "best for the country, but > >> not evil", then I could see accepting the money, but not based on his > >> arguments. > >> > >> (and btw, I am not a vegan. although I think I may have ate one once) > >> > >> >> Uh huh, and i'd like to repeal every part of the $2 billion stealth > >> >> helicopter deal, including the cupcake...so i can get my cupcake > >> somewhere > >> >> else. > >> >> > >> >> I'm not a Ryan defender, but let's just keep our heads screwed on > here. > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:354530 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
