Obama did come out against the NDAA as written and when it wasn't modified, he did include a signing statement saying that the detention provisions absolutely did not apply to US Citizens, so I think you are rather overstating your case. Would I have preferred that he veto it? Yes. But was he a champion for it and is he looking like he's aiming for indefinite domestic detention powers? No.
Judah On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > NDAA? > > NDRP? > > Admitted he wants to bring back the assault weapons ban, even though that > type of weapon is almost never used in violent crime, and as a military > style weapon should be the most protected in the inventory. > > Bush was bad, Obama has been bad, Romney would be bad. All of them have > major business and special interest ties that they have and will put ahead > of the electorate. > > Screw that. > > Gary Johnson 2012!! > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Melvin Thompson > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> It amazing how "people" come up with all kinds of reasons to dislike >> President Obama. . .People are disregarding the straight truth... President >> Obama inherited a big mess where the economy was steadily falling before >> and after he took office... He fought to put policies in place to hopefully >> create jobs faster and cut some Gov't spending, but it was never good >> enough for Congress (republican controlled)... But President Obama >> prevented millions more Americans from being unemployed (which is a >> percentage of why the deficit continued to grow)... I can't believe people >> and "the President" actually thought the mess he inherited would turn >> around in 3 years, even if Congress would've worked with him more instead >> of against him... >> >> Romney has just changed his "story" back-n-forth way too many times >> (basically lying)...and his arrogance to think the American people >> (Republican and Democratics) in the middle and poor class just dumb enough >> to ignore his constant flip-flopping (basically lying) of topics... when he >> was talking about the 47%, he wasn't just talking about Democrats.. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >From: Eric Roberts <[email protected]> >> >Sent: Oct 23, 2012 8:40 PM >> >To: cf-community <[email protected]> >> >Subject: RE: anyone watch last night's debate? >> > >> > >> >> No...There was no SOFA because Iraq wouldn't agree to our terms. I >> >> think you need to try harder... >> >> ******** >> >> Again, OK, fine. Obama does not know how to negotiate well. >> > >> >Iraq wanted to be able to prosecute soldiers for alleged war >> crimes...Obama >> >didn't want that to happen because he didn't trust the Iraqi government to >> >not trump up charges to make them look better. >> > >> >------------------------------------ >> >Three Ravens Consulting >> >Eric Roberts >> >Owner/Developer >> >[email protected] >> >tel: 630-486-5255 >> >fax: 630-310-8531 >> >http://www.threeravensconsulting.com >> >------------------------------------ >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[email protected]] >> >Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:30 PM >> >To: cf-community >> >Subject: Re: anyone watch last night's debate? >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Let's start with how the Benghazi story was first put out, that it was >> >> not a terrorist act, but rather started by a video >> >> >> >> ********************* >> >> Did you read the transcript of the rose garden speech the following day? >> >> *********************** >> > >> >Yes, four paragraphs up from the end he says "No acts of terror will ever >> >shake the resolve of this great nation,.....". Nice play on words. Never >> >said it was a terrorist act, or something done by terrorists. He said no >> >acts of terror. >> >> >> >> Fast and furious began under the Bush administration >> >> *************** >> >> It did...Bush also tried doing the same thing and failed as well. >> >> ************** >> >Fast and furious started in OCtober 2009, months into the President's >> term. >> >Yes, Bush did other similar tactics, but Fast and Furious was not started >> by >> >Bush. >> >> >> >> Says his budget will cut the deficit by 4 trillion over 10 years >> > >> >He is basically saying that among other things in his plan, the savings >> from >> >the wars ending will help reduce the deficit, oh, and he will raise the >> debt >> >ceiling. So when a college student finished college, he/she suddenly has >> an >> >influx of cash at hand? No, they have to pay back their loans, just as we >> >have to pay for the wars somehow, and raising the debt ceiling is not the >> >way. >> >> >> >> You didn't build that >> >> ************ >> >> It was a very true statement. None of the businesses were built on a >> >> deserted island. >> >> ************** >> >Yeah, Obama personally went to each and every business and helped them >> build >> >it. No, not really. Small businesses were started by hard working people. >> >Sure some had to borrow the money, but so what? The people who built the >> >business built it with their ideas, their business plan and so on. >> >> >> >> During 2012 state of the union, said that American oil production is >> >> at it's highest in eight years >> >> *************** >> >> That is true too...There was a boom in one of the Dakota's and Texas >> >> that has reduced the need for imports to forty something >> >> percent...down from sixty something (IK don't recal the exact numbers >> >> offhand) >> >> ************************* >> >This is mostly true. >> > >> http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jan/24/barack-obama/ >> >barack-obama-says-us-oil-production-eight-year-hig/ >> >> >> >> Says he has done more for Israel's security than any other president >> >> ********************* >> >> So does Ehud Barak and Shimon Perez...they also said that >> >> ****************** >> > >> >My bad, I was thinking of his middle east apology tour where he skipped >> >Israel. >> > >> >> >> >> Said that the jobs bill was paid for >> >> *************** >> >> Which jobs bill? I don't recell hearing him say that... >> >> ************ >> >Sorry, I meant to say that his jobs bill would be paid for and would not >> >raise the deficit. Problem is that all the money that goes to social >> >programs is already being spent, and any program that cannot be paid for >> by >> >taxes is paid on credit. >> >> >> >> Said that there is no where else in the US to drill for oil >> >> ************** >> >> Bullshit...he never said that. He has said on several occasions that >> >> Oil companies have plenty of unused drilling areas that they can drill >> >> on to get oil, which is why drilling on public lands has declined >> >> *********** >> >I should have added that he said there are not many places on the ground >> to >> >drill, that we had to go deep water. >> >> >> >> Said that there were no boots on the ground in Libya , but yet the >> >> AC-130 gunships just happen to be able to hit their targets without a >> >spotter? >> >> Weird. >> >> ************* >> >> Unless you have proof, there were no boots on the ground. Don't you >> >> think they could have used Libyan assets to do that? >> >> *********** >> >> OK, fine, we'll call a draw on this one since you know more about >> military >> >operations than I do. >> > >> >> >> >> The list goes on and on and these are just some of the things in the >> >> last 3+ years I an think of off the top of my head. >> >> >> >> And the best one ever (not a lie really, just taking credit for >> >> someone else's work) is how he takes credit for taking troops out of >> >> Iraq when in actuality the plan was already put in place before he >> >> took office. And then he failed to come up with a SOFA agreement to >> >> keep limited troops there in case shit pops off like it has. So >> basically >> >he left Iraq hanging. >> >> >> >> ************ >> >> No...There was no SOFA because Iraq wouldn't agree to our terms. I >> >> think you need to try harder... >> >> ******** >> >> Again, OK, fine. Obama does not know how to negotiate well. >> > >> >I have made my points and I am done with this conversation. I need to go >> >watch SOA and then get ready for PT in the morning. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:356501 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
