I think he's already used it. It's the only reason I can see for the justice department to continue it's fight.
Also, have you read the NDRP? That shit is evil, and yes, I know it just expanded on a Clinton era executive order, but it's wrong. he's the president, and supposedly a constitutional expert. A veto should have been the only answer to the NDAA. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Obama did come out against the NDAA as written and when it wasn't > modified, he did include a signing statement saying that the detention > provisions absolutely did not apply to US Citizens, so I think you are > rather overstating your case. Would I have preferred that he veto it? > Yes. But was he a champion for it and is he looking like he's aiming > for indefinite domestic detention powers? No. > > Judah > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:43 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > NDAA? > > > > NDRP? > > > > Admitted he wants to bring back the assault weapons ban, even though that > > type of weapon is almost never used in violent crime, and as a military > > style weapon should be the most protected in the inventory. > > > > Bush was bad, Obama has been bad, Romney would be bad. All of them have > > major business and special interest ties that they have and will put > ahead > > of the electorate. > > > > Screw that. > > > > Gary Johnson 2012!! > > > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Melvin Thompson <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> It amazing how "people" come up with all kinds of reasons to dislike > >> President Obama. . .People are disregarding the straight truth... > President > >> Obama inherited a big mess where the economy was steadily falling before > >> and after he took office... He fought to put policies in place to > hopefully > >> create jobs faster and cut some Gov't spending, but it was never good > >> enough for Congress (republican controlled)... But President Obama > >> prevented millions more Americans from being unemployed (which is a > >> percentage of why the deficit continued to grow)... I can't believe > people > >> and "the President" actually thought the mess he inherited would turn > >> around in 3 years, even if Congress would've worked with him more > instead > >> of against him... > >> > >> Romney has just changed his "story" back-n-forth way too many times > >> (basically lying)...and his arrogance to think the American people > >> (Republican and Democratics) in the middle and poor class just dumb > enough > >> to ignore his constant flip-flopping (basically lying) of topics... > when he > >> was talking about the 47%, he wasn't just talking about Democrats.. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> >From: Eric Roberts <[email protected]> > >> >Sent: Oct 23, 2012 8:40 PM > >> >To: cf-community <[email protected]> > >> >Subject: RE: anyone watch last night's debate? > >> > > >> > > >> >> No...There was no SOFA because Iraq wouldn't agree to our terms. I > >> >> think you need to try harder... > >> >> ******** > >> >> Again, OK, fine. Obama does not know how to negotiate well. > >> > > >> >Iraq wanted to be able to prosecute soldiers for alleged war > >> crimes...Obama > >> >didn't want that to happen because he didn't trust the Iraqi > government to > >> >not trump up charges to make them look better. > >> > > >> >------------------------------------ > >> >Three Ravens Consulting > >> >Eric Roberts > >> >Owner/Developer > >> >[email protected] > >> >tel: 630-486-5255 > >> >fax: 630-310-8531 > >> >http://www.threeravensconsulting.com > >> >------------------------------------ > >> > > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[email protected]] > >> >Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 7:30 PM > >> >To: cf-community > >> >Subject: Re: anyone watch last night's debate? > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Let's start with how the Benghazi story was first put out, that it > was > >> >> not a terrorist act, but rather started by a video > >> >> > >> >> ********************* > >> >> Did you read the transcript of the rose garden speech the following > day? > >> >> *********************** > >> > > >> >Yes, four paragraphs up from the end he says "No acts of terror will > ever > >> >shake the resolve of this great nation,.....". Nice play on words. > Never > >> >said it was a terrorist act, or something done by terrorists. He said > no > >> >acts of terror. > >> >> > >> >> Fast and furious began under the Bush administration > >> >> *************** > >> >> It did...Bush also tried doing the same thing and failed as well. > >> >> ************** > >> >Fast and furious started in OCtober 2009, months into the President's > >> term. > >> >Yes, Bush did other similar tactics, but Fast and Furious was not > started > >> by > >> >Bush. > >> >> > >> >> Says his budget will cut the deficit by 4 trillion over 10 years > >> > > >> >He is basically saying that among other things in his plan, the savings > >> from > >> >the wars ending will help reduce the deficit, oh, and he will raise the > >> debt > >> >ceiling. So when a college student finished college, he/she suddenly > has > >> an > >> >influx of cash at hand? No, they have to pay back their loans, just as > we > >> >have to pay for the wars somehow, and raising the debt ceiling is not > the > >> >way. > >> >> > >> >> You didn't build that > >> >> ************ > >> >> It was a very true statement. None of the businesses were built on a > >> >> deserted island. > >> >> ************** > >> >Yeah, Obama personally went to each and every business and helped them > >> build > >> >it. No, not really. Small businesses were started by hard working > people. > >> >Sure some had to borrow the money, but so what? The people who built > the > >> >business built it with their ideas, their business plan and so on. > >> >> > >> >> During 2012 state of the union, said that American oil production is > >> >> at it's highest in eight years > >> >> *************** > >> >> That is true too...There was a boom in one of the Dakota's and Texas > >> >> that has reduced the need for imports to forty something > >> >> percent...down from sixty something (IK don't recal the exact numbers > >> >> offhand) > >> >> ************************* > >> >This is mostly true. > >> > > >> > http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jan/24/barack-obama/ > >> >barack-obama-says-us-oil-production-eight-year-hig/ > >> >> > >> >> Says he has done more for Israel's security than any other president > >> >> ********************* > >> >> So does Ehud Barak and Shimon Perez...they also said that > >> >> ****************** > >> > > >> >My bad, I was thinking of his middle east apology tour where he skipped > >> >Israel. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Said that the jobs bill was paid for > >> >> *************** > >> >> Which jobs bill? I don't recell hearing him say that... > >> >> ************ > >> >Sorry, I meant to say that his jobs bill would be paid for and would > not > >> >raise the deficit. Problem is that all the money that goes to social > >> >programs is already being spent, and any program that cannot be paid > for > >> by > >> >taxes is paid on credit. > >> >> > >> >> Said that there is no where else in the US to drill for oil > >> >> ************** > >> >> Bullshit...he never said that. He has said on several occasions that > >> >> Oil companies have plenty of unused drilling areas that they can > drill > >> >> on to get oil, which is why drilling on public lands has declined > >> >> *********** > >> >I should have added that he said there are not many places on the > ground > >> to > >> >drill, that we had to go deep water. > >> >> > >> >> Said that there were no boots on the ground in Libya , but yet the > >> >> AC-130 gunships just happen to be able to hit their targets without a > >> >spotter? > >> >> Weird. > >> >> ************* > >> >> Unless you have proof, there were no boots on the ground. Don't you > >> >> think they could have used Libyan assets to do that? > >> >> *********** > >> >> OK, fine, we'll call a draw on this one since you know more about > >> military > >> >operations than I do. > >> > > >> >> > >> >> The list goes on and on and these are just some of the things in the > >> >> last 3+ years I an think of off the top of my head. > >> >> > >> >> And the best one ever (not a lie really, just taking credit for > >> >> someone else's work) is how he takes credit for taking troops out of > >> >> Iraq when in actuality the plan was already put in place before he > >> >> took office. And then he failed to come up with a SOFA agreement to > >> >> keep limited troops there in case shit pops off like it has. So > >> basically > >> >he left Iraq hanging. > >> >> > >> >> ************ > >> >> No...There was no SOFA because Iraq wouldn't agree to our terms. I > >> >> think you need to try harder... > >> >> ******** > >> >> Again, OK, fine. Obama does not know how to negotiate well. > >> > > >> >I have made my points and I am done with this conversation. I need to > go > >> >watch SOA and then get ready for PT in the morning. > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:356516 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
