both I suspect.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I have a question...in all these places reporting multiple hour waits to
> vote is this from increased voter turnout or changes to voting procedure?
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 4:24 PM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've never really understood the bill thing.....what's to keep me from
>> dumpster diving to find a couple of bills addressed to "me"?
>>
>> Kansas requires a photo ID. Missouri allows the bill thing...just show them
>> a bill with "your name" on it, and you can vote.
>>
>> I guess if you steal your neighbors mail that day....you are good to go...?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > The Canadian system is interesting. Yes they require voter id, but
>> > give a list of 20 or so acceptable ids. IF you cannot produce an
>> > acceptable ID, 2 utility bills addressed to you is acceptable. Then
>> > Elections Canada gives a list of over 400 types of bills that are
>> > acceptable. Then if you cannot produce that, you need to get a
>> > registered voter who lives in your district to vouch for you under
>> > oath. And there has been very little or no voter fraud in Canada.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > OK, so here is my two cents on the ID issue. My wife is not from
>> America
>> > and cannot yet vote here. So, if Georgia does not check for ID's (I don't
>> > know if they do or don't, just using the state I currently live in as an
>> > example, I voted absentee for Colorado), then my wife and I can go to the
>> > local polling place, and I make sure she is behind me. Then, as they
>> check
>> > off my name from the list, I quickly look up a woman's name who has not
>> yet
>> > voted, and tell my wife that name in her ear. She steps up and uses that
>> > name, and voila, Abigail Smith has voted. Now, here is how this would
>> play
>> > out:
>> > >
>> > > 1. Abigail does not show up to vote, but her vote is counted anyway
>> > because she "did" show up.
>> > >
>> > > 2. Abigail shows up, is told she already voted. Protest ensues and one
>> > of these things happens:
>> > >
>> > > a. Abigail's vote is tossed out as is Abigail for voter fraud.
>> > > b. Abigail's vote is tossed out, and she gets to vote.
>> > > 3. Abigail is told she already voted so it's too bad and is asked to
>> > leave.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > But, if my wife was required to show ID, and her ID is checked against
>> > their list (as California did/does, have not voted in Ca. in a while so I
>> > don't know), and she can't vote.
>> > >
>> > > So I really don't understand why people fuss about having to show an ID
>> > to vote. We have to show ID for so many less important things but people
>> > don't think twice about it. I mean, I have to show my government ID when
>> I
>> > shop at the commissary. Is buying groceries a matter of national
>> security?
>> > No. Are the groceries at the commissary less expensive than off post?
>> > Usually not, but the money I save not driving a few miles away to a good
>> > neighborhood to shop offsets the price difference. Point being, if you
>> are
>> > eligible to vote in the US, then have ID to vote. No ID, no vote. Simple.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
>> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 1:59 PM
>> > >> To: cf-community
>> > >> Subject: Re: Election Day General News:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> See, shit like that (Dean's accusations), to me, border on election
>> > >> tampering. He is practically scaring people to go vote for Pres.
>> Obama.
>> > >>
>> > >> Along the same lines, if people are being asked for ID in PA...that
>> > shit has
>> > >> to stop.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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