State's is still going?

Good stuff.  Is this the one Adam and I started at DSS or one at main state?


On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Scott Stewart
<[email protected]>wrote:

>
> I think one of the major issues is that there are so many CFUG's in this
> area.
> State Department CFUG
> Pentagon CFUG
> Maryland CFUG, Rockville.. I think there's also a Baltimore one
> DCCFUG
> This is just off the top of my head..
>
> My major reason for not attending is that I live so bloody far out ...
> It would almost be easier for me if there was a West Virginia CFUG.
>
> I got spoiled in Raleigh because TACFUG was really the only game in town
> for CFUG's
> the next closest ones would've been Richmond (if one existed) or
> Charlotte .. 3.5 hours away.
>
> Now what I may suggest to you is branching out making it a Virginia CFUG
> and appealing to the Richmond/Norfolk/Newport News areas.
> Richmond is less than two hours away .. (discounting traffic, and the
> way that I drive), and doing live online sessions.
>
> On 11/21/2012 12:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
> > Same here. That said if this area is such a hotbed of CF then why the
> > fck can't we get more people to attend the Northern Virginia Users
> > Group? (Sorry a bete noir of mine). It seems to me that CF developers
> > in this area are very insular, and many simply are time keepers, not
> > interested in updating skills or learning new approaches.
> >
> > I get calls and emails about CF related jobs regularly. Mostly these
> > are elsewhere in the country. I usually respond that I can't relocate
> > but would be interested in the job if its a telecommute. No response
> > after that. Although at the same time I usually point the recruiter to
> > CF-Jobs.
> >
> > As for OBD, unlike Railo, its been my impression that its more of a
> > hobbyist app, not having the support of an external company, only a
> > bunch of enthusiasts struggling to keep it updated. Because of that
> > they're about 1 to 1.5 versions behind CF and Railo.
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Scott Stewart
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> To be really honest, I'm almost past the point of caring. I live in one
> >> of the CF Hotbeds, Washington DC and my phone and email are blown up at
> >> least once a day with calls for Senior CF Developers..  there are jobs
> >> out there.. As a matter of fact the company that I work for is actively
> >> looking for ColdFusion developers for a DHS contract...
> >>
> >> I think the biggest naysayers are the body shops who can't find
> >> developers willing to pull up stakes an move half way across the country
> >> for a three month contract.
> >>
> >> Ben Forta said it best, and I'm paraphrasing "As long as CF is
> >> profitable, Adobe will continue to support it".
> >>
> >> In my opinion, I think that we as the community should be more vocal and
> >> not depend on Adobe to market. "Marketing" for PHP, Ruby etc, is driven
> >> by the developer communities why shouldn't CFML be as well..  Maybe, we
> >> should achieve that separation between the language (CFML) and a
> >> particular engine (Adobe ColdFusion), and vocalize the merits of the
> >> language, and let the client dictate the implementation..
> >>
> >> Also.. we should lay some of this burden at the feet of those involved
> >> with Railo and Open Blue Dragon.... Railo does some marketing but I've
> >> seen very little from the OBD folks...
> >>
> >> all this is just my own opinion, I'm sure there are others
> >>
> >> On 11/20/2012 8:19 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
> >>> http://corfield.org/blog/post.cfm/cfml-too-little-too-late
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Did you guys read Sean's latest blog post.
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> >>>
> >>>
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