I know a lot of people that don't go to conferences...me included. Besides the high cost, they are usually out of state. When they had conferences in Chicago back in the late 90's,I used to go. I was also working for a company that paid for them rather than doing contract work.
------------------------------------ Three Ravens Consulting Eric Roberts Owner/Developer [email protected] tel: 630-486-5255 fax: 630-310-8531 http://www.threeravensconsulting.com ------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 11:23 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Harsh... Yes there are, but at the same time Northern Virginia has many companies that use CF that has nothing to do with the defense or state. I spent some time doing the technical interviews - helping a buddy who was looking for a senior CF developer. I was appalled at the lack of knowledge many of the candidates displayed. One of the questions (I didn't write them btw) asked was whether they were a part of a user group. One person said yes - the Maryland group. When asked about any CF related conferences, not one said yes. We're going to be moving to the meeting place to the Tyson's Corner area. I'm meeting with the person volunteering the space this Sunday to iron out details but I'm hoping that this may attract more people. The online sessions are a good idea. I'll have to explore that more. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Scott Stewart <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think one of the major issues is that there are so many CFUG's in > this area. > State Department CFUG > Pentagon CFUG > Maryland CFUG, Rockville.. I think there's also a Baltimore one DCCFUG > This is just off the top of my head.. > > My major reason for not attending is that I live so bloody far out ... > It would almost be easier for me if there was a West Virginia CFUG. > > I got spoiled in Raleigh because TACFUG was really the only game in > town for CFUG's the next closest ones would've been Richmond (if one > existed) or Charlotte .. 3.5 hours away. > > Now what I may suggest to you is branching out making it a Virginia > CFUG and appealing to the Richmond/Norfolk/Newport News areas. > Richmond is less than two hours away .. (discounting traffic, and the > way that I drive), and doing live online sessions. > > On 11/21/2012 12:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >> Same here. That said if this area is such a hotbed of CF then why the >> fck can't we get more people to attend the Northern Virginia Users >> Group? (Sorry a bete noir of mine). It seems to me that CF developers >> in this area are very insular, and many simply are time keepers, not >> interested in updating skills or learning new approaches. >> >> I get calls and emails about CF related jobs regularly. Mostly these >> are elsewhere in the country. I usually respond that I can't relocate >> but would be interested in the job if its a telecommute. No response >> after that. Although at the same time I usually point the recruiter >> to CF-Jobs. >> >> As for OBD, unlike Railo, its been my impression that its more of a >> hobbyist app, not having the support of an external company, only a >> bunch of enthusiasts struggling to keep it updated. Because of that >> they're about 1 to 1.5 versions behind CF and Railo. >> >> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Scott Stewart >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> To be really honest, I'm almost past the point of caring. I live in >>> one of the CF Hotbeds, Washington DC and my phone and email are >>> blown up at least once a day with calls for Senior CF Developers.. >>> there are jobs out there.. As a matter of fact the company that I >>> work for is actively looking for ColdFusion developers for a DHS contract... >>> >>> I think the biggest naysayers are the body shops who can't find >>> developers willing to pull up stakes an move half way across the >>> country for a three month contract. >>> >>> Ben Forta said it best, and I'm paraphrasing "As long as CF is >>> profitable, Adobe will continue to support it". >>> >>> In my opinion, I think that we as the community should be more vocal >>> and not depend on Adobe to market. "Marketing" for PHP, Ruby etc, is >>> driven by the developer communities why shouldn't CFML be as well.. >>> Maybe, we should achieve that separation between the language (CFML) >>> and a particular engine (Adobe ColdFusion), and vocalize the merits >>> of the language, and let the client dictate the implementation.. >>> >>> Also.. we should lay some of this burden at the feet of those >>> involved with Railo and Open Blue Dragon.... Railo does some >>> marketing but I've seen very little from the OBD folks... >>> >>> all this is just my own opinion, I'm sure there are others >>> >>> On 11/20/2012 8:19 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: >>>> http://corfield.org/blog/post.cfm/cfml-too-little-too-late >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Did you guys read Sean's latest blog post. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This would be a good discussion as he does bring up some good >>>> points.though I think he was a little overly harsh in others. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <http://www.threeravensconsulting.com/> >>>> >>>> <http://www.threeravensconsulting.com> Your ColdFusion >>>> Development Solution >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Eric Roberts >>>> Owner/Developer >>>> >>>> Three Ravens Consulting >>>> >>>> >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] >>>> <http://www.threeravensconsulting.com> >>>> http://www.threeravensconsulting.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> tel: >>>> fax: >>>> >>>> 630-486-5255 >>>> 630-310-8531 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=34360284618&src=client_sig_212_1_ba >>>> nner_join &invite=1&lang=en> Want to always have my latest info? >>>> >>>> >>>> <http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_banner_sig&lan >>>> g=en> >>>> Want a signature like this? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:358718 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
