That makes no sense. How are skepticism or atheism incompatible with freedom? If anything its the opposite. I don't see Atheists demanding that every Sunday churches present the Theory of Evolution. But there are a lot of churches that want to do the same for creationism in the classroom. I don't see Atheism trying to prevent believers from holding public office,
Have you ever really read up on Secular Humanism? Apparently not. One of the most important parts of it is Tolerance. Can you say the same for your religion? My own opinion is you don t gods, saints, demons, devils or whatever. I try to follow this code, I refuse to give in to the blackmail that most Christian churches hold to: "Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones." - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations And BTW another 2000+ year old set of questions I like "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" And: "If God listened to the prayers of men, all men would quickly have perished: for they are forever praying for evil against one another." - Epicurus (341-270 B.C.E.) On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 2:42 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think the idea of a creator who made the world in such a shape that men > have dominion over plant and animal and earth, that we are free, and that > we have inalienable rights, is central to our form of government. > > Atheism/statism/left wing humanist ideals are as incompatible with these > beliefs as the extremes of the right. > On Apr 4, 2013 2:20 PM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Its a matter of if a shoe fits... > > > > Lets face it someone insisting that Dinosaurs were on Noah's Arc and that > > the world was created just 6000 years ago, and that before the > Crucifixion > > the world was flat (how else could the Devil have Christ see the 4 > corners > > of the world), and then insisting that his particular delusions be > codified > > into law, is not operating on all cylinders. (damn that's an ugly run on > > sentence). > > > > That said I always find this interesting. Whil ereligious sorts claim > that > > they do not discriminate against unbelievers, they have been able to > codify > > it in several state constitutions: > > > > Arkansas, Article 19, Section 1: > > No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office in the > civil > > departments of this State, nor be competent to testify as a witness in > any > > Court. > > > > Maryland, Article 37: > > That no religious test ought ever to be required as a qualification for > any > > office of profit or trust in this State, other than a declaration of > belief > > in the existence of God; nor shall the Legislature prescribe any other > oath > > of office than the oath prescribed by this Constitution. > > > > Mississippi, Article 14, Section 265: > > No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any > office > > in this state. > > > > North Carolina, Article 6, Section 8 > > The following persons shall be disqualified for office: Any person who > > shall deny the being of Almighty God. > > > > South Carolina, Article 17, Section 4: > > No person who denies the existence of a Supreme Being shall hold any > office > > under this Constitution. > > > > Tennessee, Article 9, Section 2: > > No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and > > punishments, shall hold any office in the civil department of this state. > > > > Texas, Article 1, Section 4: > > No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any > office, > > or public trust, in this State; nor shall any one be excluded from > holding > > office on account of his religious sentiments, provided he acknowledge > the > > existence of a Supreme Being. > > > > ----------------- > > US Constitution > > Article VI. > > Clause 3 > > "... but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to > any > > Office or public Trust under the United States." > > Amendment I > > "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or > > prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" > > > > U.S. law is based on English common law, which was based on Roman law. > Note > > that the two concepts in the Constitution that could be called > religiously > > based are the acceptance of slavery and the treatment of women as second > > class citizens. > > > > The Declaration of Independence mentions Nature's God, not the Christian > > God. It is also not the basis for the U.S. government, the Constitution > is. > > > > The U.S. is no more a Christian nation than it is a white nation. > > > > In 1961, the U.S. Supreme Court reaffirmed that federal law prohibits > > states from requiring any kind of religious test to serve in office when > it > > ruled in favor of a Maryland atheist seeking appointment as a notary > > public. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > "So not only are they religious nut jobs, but they continue to support > > > anachronistic > > > and detrimental laws that were abolished centuries ago lol" > > > > > > Had to throw the 'nut jobs' in didn't you? It demeans your position. > > > > > > Anyway, last time I checked, the 1960's were not centuries ago. Some > of > > > these were still on record then. > > > > > > And to the point of anachronistic and detrimental, why weren't they > > deemed > > > so when the Constitution was ratified? I can see that argument on > > > anachronistic, but what about detrimental? > > > > > > J > > > > > > - > > > > > > Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad > > reputation. > > > - Henry Kissinger > > > > > > Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the > tunnel, > > > go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:362397 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
