The UCMJ version of "conduct unbecoming", article 133, applies to officers, cadets and midshipmen.
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm133.htm Examples of offenses: Instances of violation of this article include knowingly making a false official statement; dishonorable failure to pay a debt; cheating on an exam; opening and reading a letter of another without authority; using insulting or defamatory language to another officer in that officerÂ’s presence or about that officer to other military persons; being drunk and disorderly in a public place; public association with known prostitutes; committing or attempting to commit a crime involving moral turpitude; and failing without good cause to support the officerÂ’s family. There's also article 88 which is more in line with what you're describing... but it's also only specific for commissioned officers http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm88.htm - Contempt toward public official For enlisted, the closest is article 89, disrespect toward superior commissioned officer. Unfortunately, the office of the President does not convey a commission. Insubordination is only for instances between enlisted or warrant officers. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > No not saying that at all. You are fully entitled. But you do have to watch > yourself more. I don't know what the American equivalent of Conduct > Unbecoming... is. > > My respect though. I'd rather serve with soldiers who have that attitude > than syncophants or time keepers. > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > So what you are saying is that while I am serving, I am not entitled to a > > public opinion? I have to keep my mouth shut and be a good little > soldier? > > To be honest, if Obama asked me what I thought of him, I'd be honest and > > say I do not like him but I will follow his orders to the letter. I've > told > > my leadership more than once in the past I don't like them if I don't, > but > > also have said that my opinion of them personally does not change the > fact > > that I will still follow their orders no matter what, unless that order > is > > illegal or immoral. > > > > Sent from my iPhone 4S. > > > > On Apr 18, 2013, at 9:23 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thing is by speaking publicly in contempt of the President, you may not > > be > > > separating personal from professional. > > > > > > That said, I think that Obama is right. The NRA was lying about the > > > registration and other aspects of the bills. So why do you give the > NRA a > > > buy while condemning the president for getting pissed off at it? > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > >> Exactly. As as Commander in Chief he is entitled to respect, as much > as > > >> your company CO or 2IC if not more so. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > >>> > > >>> 1. I originally enlisted during the Reagan years. Best time for the > > >>> military. > > >>> 2. I got out during the Clinton years. Worst time for the military. > > >>> 3. Came back in during the Bush years. Great time for the military. > > >>> 4. I did NOT vote for Obama in either election. Currently worst years > > for > > >>> the military. > > >>> 5. I have exactly 2 1/2 years + 1 day until I retire so it would be > > >>> pretty stupid of me to get out now. And besides, my current > enlistment > > >>> happens to end one month after I hit 20 years so I can't get out > right > > now > > >>> anyway. > > >>> > > >>> With that being said, regardless of what I think about the man, I am > > duty > > >>> bound to follow the orders of my CIC, and being the professional NCO > I > > am > > >>> I'll ALWAYS follow the orders given to me, again regardless of what I > > think > > >>> of my leaders. My personal opinions have NEVER swayed my > > professionalism. I > > >>> know how to separate personal from professional. > > >>> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone 4S. > > >>> > > >>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:53 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected] > > > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> > > >>>> that is a sad commentary on your Commander in Chief. If you > genuinely > > >>> feel > > >>>> that way why are you serving? > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Oh, yeah. We can totally trust him to keep his word. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4S. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Apr 18, 2013, at 8:32 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 7:25 AM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> > > >>> wrote: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Who is to say they lied? Whose to say at some time in the future > > this > > >>>>>>> extensive set of background checks would in fact turn into some > > kind > > >>> of > > >>>>> big > > >>>>>>> brother type of gun registration? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> In this case, the President of the United States. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:362918 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
