The problem with that is the average joe can't afford a civilian lawyer. I am an E-6, Staff Sergeant who only makes about 3+k a month base pay. Like most people I have bills (Harley payment, insurance on two vehicles, three cell phones, Internet, satellite tv, Netflix, groceries, taxes, retirement plan and others) on one income due to the incompetence of the SSA not getting my wife her SSN in a timely manner. So when all is said and done i don't have a lot left over. Soldiers with less rank than I make much less. The difference between an E-5 and me is about $500.00 a month. So most of us have to resort to military court. And in the military, you can suffer double jeopardy. If a civilian court finds you guilty of something, when you're done paying the price of the civilian conviction, the military still gets a crack at the case in their courts.
Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Apr 18, 2013, at 11:41 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" <[email protected]> wrote: > > If soldier does anything that pisses off the army they will find some way > of bring him up on charges. What little military law advise I do remember > is "If you are guilty, push for a civilian court, if innocent go for the > court martial, you'll stand a better chance that way." > > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Bruce Sorge <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Thanks for looking that up. Not having Internet access at work sucks. >> >> So based on this I'm good. Now I will say that if I did an op-ed piece and >> used my real name and rank, or if I went on tv and railed against the CIC, >> I am sure that I'd get in some kind of trouble. The military has a knack >> for coming up with charges against someone who did something like that. >> >> Sent from my iPhone 4S. >> >> On Apr 18, 2013, at 9:48 AM, "C. Hatton Humphrey" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> The UCMJ version of "conduct unbecoming", article 133, applies to >> officers, >>> cadets and midshipmen. >>> >>> http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm133.htm >>> Examples of offenses: Instances of violation of this article include >>> knowingly making a false official statement; dishonorable failure to pay >> a >>> debt; cheating on an exam; opening and reading a letter of another >> without >>> authority; using insulting or defamatory language to another officer in >>> that officerâs presence or about that officer to other military persons; >>> being drunk and disorderly in a public place; public association with >> known >>> prostitutes; committing or attempting to commit a crime involving moral >>> turpitude; and failing without good cause to support the officerâs >> family. >>> >>> There's also article 88 which is more in line with what you're >>> describing... but it's also only specific for commissioned officers >>> http://usmilitary.about.com/od/punitivearticles/a/mcm88.htm - Contempt >>> toward public official >>> >>> For enlisted, the closest is article 89, disrespect toward superior >>> commissioned officer. Unfortunately, the office of the President does >> not >>> convey a commission. Insubordination is only for instances between >>> enlisted or warrant officers. >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:362939 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
