One thing that has not come up was the law courses that Zimmerman had taken the previous year. According to an interview with the instructor, Zimmerman focused on the Stand Your Ground and the self defense laws. It would seem that he was considering something even then.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have been thinking about this statement as I went to bed last night and > somethings just do not sit well with me. > > If it was truly 'gated', I would assume that one would need to pass through > some kind of security station to gain access to the community - Looking at > the development on Google maps shows pretty clearly, there are no stores in > the development - unless, of course, you climb over the fence. > > If you are someone who does not belong there (and maybe up to no good), who > jumps over the fence to get in, would you walk along the street? Seems to > me that if Martin was there to cause trouble, as Zimmerman assumed, he > would have been walking along the back of the townhouses. > > Seems to me that a person walking along the street would be more likely to > be someone who 'belongs' there. > > Just a thought. > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The whole neighborhood is a private hatred community with the same rights > > as Cams building. > > On Jul 22, 2013 7:08 PM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > And what you did was absolutely correct. In your building there is > > security > > > whose job it is to help deal with these grey areas. You escorted him to > > > security. > > > > > > In Zimmerman's case, he initially did the right thing. He had > suspicions > > > and called 911. Good job. Still would have sucked to be Martin and get > > the > > > cops called on you because you are a black youth wearing a hoodie. And > I > > > would have liked to have a scene where people don't call the cops on a > > > black kid until the black kid in question actually does something...you > > > know...illegal. But, still, I can understand Zimmerman's issue there, > > even > > > if I would not do the same thing. > > > > > > The bit where he becomes a stalker with a gun is when he then ignores > 911 > > > instructions ( I know that they are not police), proceeds to stalk the > > kid, > > > then gets out of the car to confront him. All without a single illegal > > > behavior on the part of Martin. In Cam's case, the dude is in a private > > > building. Escorting him to security is totally reasonable because it is > > > private property. In the case of Zimmerman and Martin, there is no such > > > reasonableness. Martin is squarely within his rights, walking > > > independently, and Zimmerman is trying to detain the dude. > > > > > > You put Tim in the part of Martin, hoodie-wearing punk dude, and > > Zimmerman > > > may have been in the hospital before he got a chance to draw his gun. > And > > > rightly so. The fact that Martin wasn't as good of a fighter as Tim is > no > > > reason to blame him for his own death, when he had no part in causing > it. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Cameron Childress <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > > > > > > > > Trayvon Martin was not giving him shit. He was walking home with a > > bag > > > of > > > > > Skittles to watch a football game with his dad. He wasn't entering > > > > anyone's > > > > > building. He wasn't stealing anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > This guy told me he was looking for a company and gave me the company > > > name. > > > > I did not witness him stealing anything. I did not know for sure that > > he > > > > was going to steal anything. He may have even been telling the > truth. I > > > > really think he probably was fishing for things to steal, but I did > not > > > > know that for sure. That's why I escorted him to the security desk to > > > "find > > > > that company he's looking for" instead of accusing him. > > > > > > > > I am 100% sure that the building security as well as the police would > > > tell > > > > me not to do that sort of thing, just like the did Zimmerman. It > could > > > have > > > > turned out in a similar "he said vs he said" or "he said vs "he's > dead" > > > > situation. I am not saying it's identical, but I am saying that > > sometimes > > > > situations can spiral out of control. Mine did not. But it does make > me > > > > think - what if..... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365837 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
