He was up by the houses not walking down the street or on the side walk On Jul 23, 2013 9:00 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I have been thinking about this statement as I went to bed last night and > somethings just do not sit well with me. > > If it was truly 'gated', I would assume that one would need to pass through > some kind of security station to gain access to the community - Looking at > the development on Google maps shows pretty clearly, there are no stores in > the development - unless, of course, you climb over the fence. > > If you are someone who does not belong there (and maybe up to no good), who > jumps over the fence to get in, would you walk along the street? Seems to > me that if Martin was there to cause trouble, as Zimmerman assumed, he > would have been walking along the back of the townhouses. > > Seems to me that a person walking along the street would be more likely to > be someone who 'belongs' there. > > Just a thought. > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The whole neighborhood is a private hatred community with the same rights > > as Cams building. > > On Jul 22, 2013 7:08 PM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > And what you did was absolutely correct. In your building there is > > security > > > whose job it is to help deal with these grey areas. You escorted him to > > > security. > > > > > > In Zimmerman's case, he initially did the right thing. He had > suspicions > > > and called 911. Good job. Still would have sucked to be Martin and get > > the > > > cops called on you because you are a black youth wearing a hoodie. And > I > > > would have liked to have a scene where people don't call the cops on a > > > black kid until the black kid in question actually does something...you > > > know...illegal. But, still, I can understand Zimmerman's issue there, > > even > > > if I would not do the same thing. > > > > > > The bit where he becomes a stalker with a gun is when he then ignores > 911 > > > instructions ( I know that they are not police), proceeds to stalk the > > kid, > > > then gets out of the car to confront him. All without a single illegal > > > behavior on the part of Martin. In Cam's case, the dude is in a private > > > building. Escorting him to security is totally reasonable because it is > > > private property. In the case of Zimmerman and Martin, there is no such > > > reasonableness. Martin is squarely within his rights, walking > > > independently, and Zimmerman is trying to detain the dude. > > > > > > You put Tim in the part of Martin, hoodie-wearing punk dude, and > > Zimmerman > > > may have been in the hospital before he got a chance to draw his gun. > And > > > rightly so. The fact that Martin wasn't as good of a fighter as Tim is > no > > > reason to blame him for his own death, when he had no part in causing > it. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Cameron Childress <[email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > > > > > > > > Trayvon Martin was not giving him shit. He was walking home with a > > bag > > > of > > > > > Skittles to watch a football game with his dad. He wasn't entering > > > > anyone's > > > > > building. He wasn't stealing anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > This guy told me he was looking for a company and gave me the company > > > name. > > > > I did not witness him stealing anything. I did not know for sure that > > he > > > > was going to steal anything. He may have even been telling the > truth. I > > > > really think he probably was fishing for things to steal, but I did > not > > > > know that for sure. That's why I escorted him to the security desk to > > > "find > > > > that company he's looking for" instead of accusing him. > > > > > > > > I am 100% sure that the building security as well as the police would > > > tell > > > > me not to do that sort of thing, just like the did Zimmerman. It > could > > > have > > > > turned out in a similar "he said vs he said" or "he said vs "he's > dead" > > > > situation. I am not saying it's identical, but I am saying that > > sometimes > > > > situations can spiral out of control. Mine did not. But it does make > me > > > > think - what if..... > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365845 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
