Scott, I looked up the location at the time, as I was wondering if I had been in Sanford in the period when I was driving around the Orlando area (no). I got it from the 911 tapes. It's a development off by itself. The nearest 7-ll is six or seven blocks away, out on the main road.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have been thinking about this statement as I went to bed last night and > somethings just do not sit well with me. > > If it was truly 'gated', I would assume that one would need to pass through > some kind of security station to gain access to the community - Looking at > the development on Google maps shows pretty clearly, there are no stores in > the development - unless, of course, you climb over the fence. > > If you are someone who does not belong there (and maybe up to no good), who > jumps over the fence to get in, would you walk along the street? Seems to > me that if Martin was there to cause trouble, as Zimmerman assumed, he > would have been walking along the back of the townhouses. > > Seems to me that a person walking along the street would be more likely to > be someone who 'belongs' there. > > Just a thought. > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> The whole neighborhood is a private hatred community with the same rights >> as Cams building. >> On Jul 22, 2013 7:08 PM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> > And what you did was absolutely correct. In your building there is >> security >> > whose job it is to help deal with these grey areas. You escorted him to >> > security. >> > >> > In Zimmerman's case, he initially did the right thing. He had suspicions >> > and called 911. Good job. Still would have sucked to be Martin and get >> the >> > cops called on you because you are a black youth wearing a hoodie. And I >> > would have liked to have a scene where people don't call the cops on a >> > black kid until the black kid in question actually does something...you >> > know...illegal. But, still, I can understand Zimmerman's issue there, >> even >> > if I would not do the same thing. >> > >> > The bit where he becomes a stalker with a gun is when he then ignores 911 >> > instructions ( I know that they are not police), proceeds to stalk the >> kid, >> > then gets out of the car to confront him. All without a single illegal >> > behavior on the part of Martin. In Cam's case, the dude is in a private >> > building. Escorting him to security is totally reasonable because it is >> > private property. In the case of Zimmerman and Martin, there is no such >> > reasonableness. Martin is squarely within his rights, walking >> > independently, and Zimmerman is trying to detain the dude. >> > >> > You put Tim in the part of Martin, hoodie-wearing punk dude, and >> Zimmerman >> > may have been in the hospital before he got a chance to draw his gun. And >> > rightly so. The fact that Martin wasn't as good of a fighter as Tim is no >> > reason to blame him for his own death, when he had no part in causing it. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Judah >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Cameron Childress <[email protected] >> > >wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: >> > > >> > > > Trayvon Martin was not giving him shit. He was walking home with a >> bag >> > of >> > > > Skittles to watch a football game with his dad. He wasn't entering >> > > anyone's >> > > > building. He wasn't stealing anything. >> > > >> > > >> > > This guy told me he was looking for a company and gave me the company >> > name. >> > > I did not witness him stealing anything. I did not know for sure that >> he >> > > was going to steal anything. He may have even been telling the truth. I >> > > really think he probably was fishing for things to steal, but I did not >> > > know that for sure. That's why I escorted him to the security desk to >> > "find >> > > that company he's looking for" instead of accusing him. >> > > >> > > I am 100% sure that the building security as well as the police would >> > tell >> > > me not to do that sort of thing, just like the did Zimmerman. It could >> > have >> > > turned out in a similar "he said vs he said" or "he said vs "he's dead" >> > > situation. I am not saying it's identical, but I am saying that >> sometimes >> > > situations can spiral out of control. Mine did not. But it does make me >> > > think - what if..... >> > > >> > > ... >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365879 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
