Had not thought to use street view (or whatever view that is) in Google maps
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > http://elearningexamples.com/the-events-leading-to-the-shooting-of-trayvon-martin-interactive/ > > That's #2 on this and appears to be the way Trayvon entered the area. > > > http://www.hlntv.com/interactive/2013/06/17/zimmerman-trayvon-map-interactive > > . > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I tried zooming in to see if the 'fence' was complete all the way around, > > but it was pretty difficult to tell. > > > > I cannot recall the last time I actually visited a gated community. Used > to > > go to 'retirement villages' that were gated when I was a paramedic, but > the > > guards always just waved us through (for obvious reasons). > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Many gated communities only stop cars. This one had unfenced areas that > > > people used for shortcuts. > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:20 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > He was up by the houses not walking down the street or on the side > walk > > > > On Jul 23, 2013 9:00 AM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been thinking about this statement as I went to bed last > night > > > and > > > > > somethings just do not sit well with me. > > > > > > > > > > If it was truly 'gated', I would assume that one would need to pass > > > > through > > > > > some kind of security station to gain access to the community - > > Looking > > > > at > > > > > the development on Google maps shows pretty clearly, there are no > > > stores > > > > in > > > > > the development - unless, of course, you climb over the fence. > > > > > > > > > > If you are someone who does not belong there (and maybe up to no > > good), > > > > who > > > > > jumps over the fence to get in, would you walk along the street? > > Seems > > > to > > > > > me that if Martin was there to cause trouble, as Zimmerman assumed, > > he > > > > > would have been walking along the back of the townhouses. > > > > > > > > > > Seems to me that a person walking along the street would be more > > likely > > > > to > > > > > be someone who 'belongs' there. > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The whole neighborhood is a private hatred community with the > same > > > > rights > > > > > > as Cams building. > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2013 7:08 PM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And what you did was absolutely correct. In your building there > > is > > > > > > security > > > > > > > whose job it is to help deal with these grey areas. You > escorted > > > him > > > > to > > > > > > > security. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In Zimmerman's case, he initially did the right thing. He had > > > > > suspicions > > > > > > > and called 911. Good job. Still would have sucked to be Martin > > and > > > > get > > > > > > the > > > > > > > cops called on you because you are a black youth wearing a > > hoodie. > > > > And > > > > > I > > > > > > > would have liked to have a scene where people don't call the > cops > > > on > > > > a > > > > > > > black kid until the black kid in question actually does > > > > something...you > > > > > > > know...illegal. But, still, I can understand Zimmerman's issue > > > there, > > > > > > even > > > > > > > if I would not do the same thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The bit where he becomes a stalker with a gun is when he then > > > ignores > > > > > 911 > > > > > > > instructions ( I know that they are not police), proceeds to > > stalk > > > > the > > > > > > kid, > > > > > > > then gets out of the car to confront him. All without a single > > > > illegal > > > > > > > behavior on the part of Martin. In Cam's case, the dude is in a > > > > private > > > > > > > building. Escorting him to security is totally reasonable > because > > > it > > > > is > > > > > > > private property. In the case of Zimmerman and Martin, there is > > no > > > > such > > > > > > > reasonableness. Martin is squarely within his rights, walking > > > > > > > independently, and Zimmerman is trying to detain the dude. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You put Tim in the part of Martin, hoodie-wearing punk dude, > and > > > > > > Zimmerman > > > > > > > may have been in the hospital before he got a chance to draw > his > > > gun. > > > > > And > > > > > > > rightly so. The fact that Martin wasn't as good of a fighter as > > Tim > > > > is > > > > > no > > > > > > > reason to blame him for his own death, when he had no part in > > > causing > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Cameron Childress < > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trayvon Martin was not giving him shit. He was walking home > > > with > > > > a > > > > > > bag > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Skittles to watch a football game with his dad. He wasn't > > > > entering > > > > > > > > anyone's > > > > > > > > > building. He wasn't stealing anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This guy told me he was looking for a company and gave me the > > > > company > > > > > > > name. > > > > > > > > I did not witness him stealing anything. I did not know for > > sure > > > > that > > > > > > he > > > > > > > > was going to steal anything. He may have even been telling > the > > > > > truth. I > > > > > > > > really think he probably was fishing for things to steal, > but I > > > did > > > > > not > > > > > > > > know that for sure. That's why I escorted him to the security > > > desk > > > > to > > > > > > > "find > > > > > > > > that company he's looking for" instead of accusing him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 100% sure that the building security as well as the > police > > > > would > > > > > > > tell > > > > > > > > me not to do that sort of thing, just like the did Zimmerman. > > It > > > > > could > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > turned out in a similar "he said vs he said" or "he said vs > > "he's > > > > > dead" > > > > > > > > situation. I am not saying it's identical, but I am saying > that > > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > > situations can spiral out of control. Mine did not. But it > does > > > > make > > > > > me > > > > > > > > think - what if..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365861 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
