And we all agree he shouldn't have. .
On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > I also understand that I am looking at this in hindsight and with all the > time in the world to analyze it. > > That being said, gun or not, I am not sure I would have done the same as > Zimmerman and followed Martin. > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Zimmerman lived there and there was a string of burglaries. The guy was > > acting suspicious by walking across lawn right up to the houses. Then the > > guy disappeared. That's the story we're told. If that's all wrong, and we > > have no reason to believe it is, then you have a point. Remember, last > year > > Zimmerman publicly pushed to discipline the same cops that investigated > him > > for this because they beat a homeless black man. It says a lot about his > > character, more of an I carer for my community than a wanna be cop. > > > > . > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > He was a guest in the gated community, he had a right to be there. > > > > > > There is a distinct difference between people who help other people and > > > 'wanna bes' (or, as my wife reminded earlier, 'yuk yuks'). The former > do > > it > > > out of the kindness of their hearts, the latter do it for some inflated > > > sense of 'glory'. > > > > > > A good example of the former would be those teenagers who chased a > would > > be > > > kidnapper on their bikes last week. > > > > > > A good example of the later would be George Zimmerman. > > > > > > In this case, Martin was doing nothing illegal, if Zimmerman had 'left > it > > > to the professionals', Martin would be alive' and we never would have > > known > > > either existed. > > > > > > Still an perplexed that you think Martin would have answered any > > questions > > > Zimmerman may have asked him. > > > > > > Person committing a crime by driving drunk - violation of their rights > to > > > be questioned by a police officer. > > > > > > Person not committing a crime contributed to their own death by not > > > answering questions asked by a private citizen. > > > > > > Simply baffling. > > > On Jul 22, 2013 9:42 PM, "LRS Scout" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > An individual on private property? Who isn't an officer of the law? > No > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > There is a difference you know right? > > > > > > > > This is a gated community. It is all private property. > > > > > > > > If he were on a public side walk I'd have a different opinion. > > > > > > > > Also I want to address some stuff you said earlier about wanna bes. > I > > > > remember when crime was still really bad and climbing, not dropping > and > > > > badly reported. I remember when people walked by rapes and murders > and > > > did > > > > nothing. You basically talked down to people who go out of there way > to > > > > help other people. Leave it to the professionals right? But the > supreme > > > > court had found that police don't have any obligation to protect you. > > > So > > > > if that's true you have to protect yourself and we need to be able to > > > > protect each other. > > > > > > > > As a private citizen I can do all kinds of things I could not as a > > > soldier > > > > and the same is true of the police. > > > > On Jul 22, 2013 9:28 PM, "Scott Stroz" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are you really implying that a person who was doing nothing illegal > > is > > > > > partly to blame for their death because they did not answer > questions > > > > that > > > > > were asked by someone who was NOT a police officer? > > > > > > > > > > This coming from the guy who is against DWI check points because > they > > > > > violate your rights? > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Tim, that just seems a bit inconsistent. A drunk person > > driving > > > a > > > > > car should not have to answer questions asked by a police officer > at > > a > > > > DWI > > > > > check point, but Martin should have answered questions asked by > > > > Zimmerman, > > > > > who had absolutely no authority to be asking them to begin with? > > > > > On Jul 22, 2013 9:09 PM, "LRS Scout" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stalked implies his death was the goal. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you really think that was Zimmerman initial intent? > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't think anyone but Larry has suggested that. > > > > > > > > > > > > And I thought it was his dad's girlfriends place. He had only > just > > > > moved > > > > > in > > > > > > and it was only temporary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes Zimmerman should have stayed in the car, but Martin could > have > > > just > > > > > > answered his questions and been about his business too. > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2013 6:56 PM, "Judah McAuley" <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It was the home where he was staying, with a relative. How is > > that > > > > not > > > > > > his > > > > > > > home? And what does it matter? If it was the home of a friend, > it > > > > > > shouldn't > > > > > > > make a single bit of difference. You walk to the store to grab > > some > > > > > > > skittles and then walk back to the house, you should not be > > stalked > > > > and > > > > > > > killed. Period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Judah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM, LRS Scout <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not his home yet again. > > > > > > > > On Jul 22, 2013 5:57 PM, "Judah McAuley" < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trayvon Martin was not giving him shit. He was walking home > > > with > > > > a > > > > > > bag > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > Skittles to watch a football game with his dad. He wasn't > > > > entering > > > > > > > > anyone's > > > > > > > > > building. He wasn't stealing anything. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Zimmerman had problems with a caricature of Martin. He had > > beef > > > > > with > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > idea of someone, not with him. Zimmerman projected his > issues > > > on > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > else and that someone else paid the price, in this case, > with > > > his > > > > > > life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's kinda different. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:365855 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
