Sam, you were the one who made it personal by saying "If you are religiously against religion then you should not take the job. Until they cater to your religious needs that is." -- inferring that atheist's have a religion.
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > Nobody asked you to. If I didn't have tea in my pocket I would be damn sure > I believe there is no tea in my pocket. If you don't want to commit that's > fine, don't file a lawsuit. These people did and they're the ones we're > talking about, not you. > > . > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > actually, no, I don't believe there is no god. Just like I don't believe > > that my pocket contains "no tea" > > > > Just because someone makes up a story, it doesn't mean I have to go > around > > affirming that I don't believe it. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Do you believe there is no God? Sort of like "If you choose not to > > decide, > > > you still have made a choice." > > > > > > You believe religious people are wrong, I might even say you think they > > are > > > fools. But I'm not sure why this makes you angry. > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > and yet you still classify it as a belief....you are the epitome of > > > someone > > > > who can't think outside their belief system Sam. Does it occur to > you > > > that > > > > some can actually not have a belief. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of > the > > > > > universe, especially when considered as the creation of a > superhuman > > > > agency > > > > > or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, > and > > > > often > > > > > containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. > > > > > > > > > > I could make it fit but I'll let this one go for now. > > > > > > > > > > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally > > agreed > > > > > upon by a number of persons or sects. > > > > > > > > > > Here. Especially if one can't say "so help me God" > > > > > But aren't you folks all in agreement about what you believe? > > > > > > > > > > 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and > > > > > practices. > > > > > > > > > > Freedom From Religion Foundation fits here. This fits too: > > > > > Atheist Alliance International's mission is to challenge and > confront > > > > > religious faith, to strengthen global atheism by promoting the > growth > > > and > > > > > interaction of atheist/freethought organisations around the world > and > > > to > > > > > undertake international educational and advocacy projects. > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like proselytism. > > > > > > > > > > the rest are just using in a sentence stuff > > > > > > > > > > 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. > > > > > > > > > > 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok, so which one do you think atheists belong to? Which one of > > those > > > > > > classifications does not have a belief > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes I think religious people can't think any other way than > > in > > > > the > > > > > > context of a belief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Sam <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of > > the > > > > > > > universe, especially when considered as the creation of a > > > superhuman > > > > > > agency > > > > > > > or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual > observances, > > > and > > > > > > often > > > > > > > containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices > generally > > > > agreed > > > > > > > upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; > the > > > > > > Buddhist > > > > > > > religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs > > and > > > > > > > practices: a world council of religions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of > faith. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman > controlling > > > > > power, > > > > > > > esp. > > > > > > > > a personal God or gods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That argument about atheism being a religion reminds me of > HGTG > > > > > infocom > > > > > > > > game where you carry "no-tea" as an item in your inventory. > Of > > > > > course, > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > that it was meant to be comedy. Unfortunately, in the real > > > world, > > > > > > that's > > > > > > > > not so true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Sam <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not a lie if it's not an affirmation. If you are > > > religiously > > > > > > > against > > > > > > > > > religion then you should not take the job. Until they cater > > to > > > > your > > > > > > > > > religious needs that is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What other qualifications for office do you feel it would > > be > > > > okay > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > lie > > > > > > > > > > about? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Sam < > [email protected] > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't consider it an affirmation, but I understand if > > you > > > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > true, but the point was being made that it's okay if > > you > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > > > > because technically it's not lying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a lie is a lie regardless of how easy it is to > expose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I apply for office in Texas and I affirm that I > > > believe > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > higher > > > > > > > > > > > > power, is that not a lie just because it can't be > > proven > > > > > > easily? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Scott Stroz < > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a lot easier, I think, to verify someone has > a > > > > degree > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > verify > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they believe in some kind of deity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:366682 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
