Do you believe there is no God? Sort of like "If you choose not to decide,
you still have made a choice."

You believe religious people are wrong, I might even say you think they are
fools. But I'm not sure why this makes you angry.

.


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> and yet you still classify it as a belief....you are the epitome of someone
> who can't think outside their belief system Sam.  Does it occur to you that
> some can actually not have a belief.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
> > 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the
> > universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman
> agency
> > or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and
> often
> > containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
> >
> > I could make it fit but I'll let this one go for now.
> >
> > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed
> > upon by a number of persons or sects.
> >
> > Here. Especially if one can't say "so help me God"
> > But aren't you folks all in agreement about what you believe?
> >
> > 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and
> > practices.
> >
> > Freedom From Religion Foundation fits here. This fits too:
> > Atheist Alliance International's mission is to challenge and confront
> > religious faith, to strengthen global atheism by promoting the growth and
> > interaction of atheist/freethought organisations around the world and to
> > undertake international educational and advocacy projects.
> >
> > Sounds like proselytism.
> >
> > the rest are just using in a sentence stuff
> >
> > 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
> >
> > 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > ok, so which one do you think atheists belong to?  Which one of those
> > > classifications does not have a belief
> > >
> > > sometimes I think religious people can't think any other way than in
> the
> > > context of a belief.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the
> > > > universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman
> > > agency
> > > > or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and
> > > often
> > > > containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
> > > >
> > > > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally
> agreed
> > > > upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the
> > > Buddhist
> > > > religion.
> > > >
> > > > 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and
> > > > practices: a world council of religions.
> > > >
> > > > 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
> > > >
> > > > 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling
> > power,
> > > > esp.
> > > > > a personal God or gods.
> > > > >
> > > > > That argument about atheism being a religion reminds me of HGTG
> > infocom
> > > > > game where you carry "no-tea" as an item in your inventory.  Of
> > course,
> > > > in
> > > > > that it was meant to be comedy.  Unfortunately, in the real world,
> > > that's
> > > > > not so true.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's not a lie if it's not an affirmation. If you are religiously
> > > > against
> > > > > > religion then you should not take the job. Until they cater to
> your
> > > > > > religious needs that is.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What other qualifications for office do you feel it would be
> okay
> > > to
> > > > > lie
> > > > > > > about?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Sam <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't consider it an affirmation, but I understand if you
> do.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox <
> > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > true, but the point was being made that it's okay if you
> > don't
> > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > > because technically it's not lying.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > a lie is a lie regardless of how easy it is to expose.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If I apply for office in Texas and I affirm that I believe
> > in a
> > > > > > higher
> > > > > > > > > power, is that not a lie just because it can't be proven
> > > easily?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Scott Stroz <
> > > [email protected]
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > It is a lot easier, I think, to verify someone has a
> degree
> > > > than
> > > > > > > verify
> > > > > > > > > > that they believe in some kind of deity.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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