I was talking about the guy that refused the job. And I still stand behind that comment. Kind of proud of it actually.
. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < [email protected]> wrote: > > Sam, you were the one who made it personal by saying "If you are > religiously against > religion then you should not take the job. Until they cater to your > religious needs that is." -- inferring that atheist's have a religion. > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Nobody asked you to. If I didn't have tea in my pocket I would be damn > sure > > I believe there is no tea in my pocket. If you don't want to commit > that's > > fine, don't file a lawsuit. These people did and they're the ones we're > > talking about, not you. > > > > . > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > actually, no, I don't believe there is no god. Just like I don't > believe > > > that my pocket contains "no tea" > > > > > > Just because someone makes up a story, it doesn't mean I have to go > > around > > > affirming that I don't believe it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Do you believe there is no God? Sort of like "If you choose not to > > > decide, > > > > you still have made a choice." > > > > > > > > You believe religious people are wrong, I might even say you think > they > > > are > > > > fools. But I'm not sure why this makes you angry. > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and yet you still classify it as a belief....you are the epitome of > > > > someone > > > > > who can't think outside their belief system Sam. Does it occur to > > you > > > > that > > > > > some can actually not have a belief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of > > the > > > > > > universe, especially when considered as the creation of a > > superhuman > > > > > agency > > > > > > or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, > > and > > > > > often > > > > > > containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. > > > > > > > > > > > > I could make it fit but I'll let this one go for now. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally > > > agreed > > > > > > upon by a number of persons or sects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Here. Especially if one can't say "so help me God" > > > > > > But aren't you folks all in agreement about what you believe? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs > and > > > > > > practices. > > > > > > > > > > > > Freedom From Religion Foundation fits here. This fits too: > > > > > > Atheist Alliance International's mission is to challenge and > > confront > > > > > > religious faith, to strengthen global atheism by promoting the > > growth > > > > and > > > > > > interaction of atheist/freethought organisations around the world > > and > > > > to > > > > > > undertake international educational and advocacy projects. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds like proselytism. > > > > > > > > > > > > the rest are just using in a sentence stuff > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ok, so which one do you think atheists belong to? Which one of > > > those > > > > > > > classifications does not have a belief > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sometimes I think religious people can't think any other way > than > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > > context of a belief. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Sam <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose > of > > > the > > > > > > > > universe, especially when considered as the creation of a > > > > superhuman > > > > > > > agency > > > > > > > > or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual > > observances, > > > > and > > > > > > > often > > > > > > > > containing a moral code governing the conduct of human > affairs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices > > generally > > > > > agreed > > > > > > > > upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; > > the > > > > > > > Buddhist > > > > > > > > religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of > beliefs > > > and > > > > > > > > practices: a world council of religions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of > > faith. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Religion: the belief in and worship of a superhuman > > controlling > > > > > > power, > > > > > > > > esp. > > > > > > > > > a personal God or gods. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That argument about atheism being a religion reminds me of > > HGTG > > > > > > infocom > > > > > > > > > game where you carry "no-tea" as an item in your inventory. > > Of > > > > > > course, > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > that it was meant to be comedy. Unfortunately, in the real > > > > world, > > > > > > > that's > > > > > > > > > not so true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Sam <[email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not a lie if it's not an affirmation. If you are > > > > religiously > > > > > > > > against > > > > > > > > > > religion then you should not take the job. Until they > cater > > > to > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > religious needs that is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What other qualifications for office do you feel it > would > > > be > > > > > okay > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > lie > > > > > > > > > > > about? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Sam < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't consider it an affirmation, but I understand > if > > > you > > > > > do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox < > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > true, but the point was being made that it's okay > if > > > you > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > believe > > > > > > > > > > > > > because technically it's not lying. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a lie is a lie regardless of how easy it is to > > expose. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If I apply for office in Texas and I affirm that I > > > > believe > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > higher > > > > > > > > > > > > > power, is that not a lie just because it can't be > > > proven > > > > > > > easily? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Scott Stroz < > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a lot easier, I think, to verify someone > has > > a > > > > > degree > > > > > > > > than > > > > > > > > > > > verify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that they believe in some kind of deity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:366685 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
