As for denial of medical care, think what you want, I've been escorted off
site more than once by VA police.  This layers time the doctor told me she
would not see me after I asked why she didn't give me refills of my
required antibiotics.  I've already dealt with the patient advocate and the
office of the inspector General.

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
On Jun 1, 2014 5:07 PM, "Eric Roberts" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Bullshit Tim.  You have only been experiencing the VA for a couple of
> years.
> I first started going to the VA when Clinton was in office.  I saw
> firsthand
> how it nosedived from day one of the Bush Administration and it fell
> deep...much like our economy fell deep thanks to him.  Not only did Bush
> rape the funding for the VA, which would have caused some problems on their
> own, with the introduction of 2 wars, he also exponentially increased the
> number of people relying on the VA for services.  Add to that the rape of
> the economy which added even more burden to the VA, I am surprised we get
> as
> good of a service as we do out of the VA.  Quit whining that you are
> getting
> denied shit because you broke the law.  While I disagree with pot being
> illegal...if you want to break the law and use it anyway, then that is on
> you and you alone.  Take responsibility for your own actions.  You are not
> prohibited by law from maintaining gainful employment.  You will lose some
> of the free benefits if you reach a certain income level.  You are not
> being
> denied shit.  I am also going to call bullshit on being denied medical
> care.
> You cannot be refused medical care.  That is illegal.  All veterans are
> eligible for care at the VA...you do not have to be rated or disabled.  The
> scale it based on whether or not you are disabled and sevice connected and
> if not, then it is based on income on what you have to pay as far as copays
> for visits and prescriptions.
>
>
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: LRS Scout [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 2:02 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: So this is why the GOP is backing off healthcare reform as a
> platform...
>
>
> Only eight of those years are thanks to Bush.
>
> If you don't want the job don't apply for it.  We're pretty deep into the
> second term to still be blaming the last guy.
>
> You are taking out your ass about the VA.
>
> While the health care issues are regional, due to the way the VA is
> organized, the problems on the benefits (VBA) side are equally insane, with
> huge backlogs and major civil rights violations all over.
>
> The surveys themselves are conducted internally, I have no faith in them
> what so ever, this organization is riddled with inefficiency and
> corruption.
>
> The rules are totally different for us, forever.  Your HIPPA protections
> don't exist for us.  Our 4th and 5th amendment rights basically don't
> exist,
> our private medical information, including therapy notes and shit, is
> freely
> shared with federal law enforcement, without a warrant.  My property has
> been stolen, without a warrant, my home searched, with out a warrant.
>
> I've been detained multiple times.  Local officers have lied to my
> neighbors
> and told them I have warrants, but I haven't even been accused of a crime.
>
> I'm prohibited by law from "maintaining gainful employment" because I'm too
> nutty to work, bit I'm denied ssdi based off doctors records that I smoke
> pot.  So I don't get half of what I'm supposed to, and now in even being
> refused medical care for staph and MRSA because my doctor screwed up my
> meds
> and appointments, and lied in my record to cover her mistake.
>
> It takes an average of 45-60 to see your primary care doctor here, longer
> to
> get to a specialist, but you can't be scrolled for the specialist without a
> referral from primary care, so you're looking at a four month minimum wait
> to see a specialist.
>
> Something a lot of outsiders miss is that the VA is scaled.  The vast
> majority of people who have earned it don't use it, even those who do use
> it
> mainly use it as part of their health care, and aren't rated and disabled
> at
> all.
>
> The real problems in the system begin when you are rated at 30% and they
> start becoming involved in every aspect of your life.
>
> The clinics are well funded, the medical staff is mainly top notch, with
> the
> exception of the many foreign doctors, who often do not have the empathy
> and
> cultural awareness this situation requires, and lack a respect for the
> special nature if their customer base.  The main problem on the health care
> side is in administrators.
>
> The VA is the epitome of a federal bureaucracy run amok.  The
> administrators
> are bitter, entitled, king term government employees who know how hard it
> is
> to get fired.  It often seems add though there job is denial of services,
> and it is.  This is an attitude that was fostered after Vietnam die to
> large
> scale fraud by veterans and liars that has since been stamped out.  Now it
> serves to save them money.
>
> Many veterans refuse to use VA health care it other benefits due to the
> Times and difficulties involved, and the impacts on the individual.  For
> many years it's seemed like this has been a coordinated effort.
>
> Christ the evil deranged domestic terrorist combat veteran is now a media
> talking point, even if a statistical anomaly.
>
>
>
>
> 

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