I just hate agile...period. I cringe whenever a recruiter brings that up in the listing of job requirements. The thing I don't get is having the developer rank the importance...well unless I am getting paid extra to also be the project manager...I don't care...just tell me what we need to do and what order you want it done. Don't waste my time with all this crap. If I wanted to do all of this I would be a manager....something I don't want to have any part of. Most of this shit is just an utter waste of my time as a developer.
Our scrum meetings are what we did yesterday and what we are doing today...we have a pretty big team, so it does take a while. My main complaint is with Sprint planning and lack of any substantial documentation...why am I involved in that. Managers...do your job and leave me out of it. Most of what I am doing in my current position are bug fixes, so that seems to work ok since there is no real designing of things going on...just fix the defects and work on enhancements within the current framework. I did a gig at Motorola at the beginning of the year. I was building a new tool from scratch. I asked them how they wanted it designed...th4ey told me to just build it and do it however I would build the tool...what I felt was best. They wanted to give the developers as much leeway as possible. So I built the tool...after waiting almost 3 months to get my logins...a completely different rant...which put me behind already... Also, other parts of the system that needed to get built that my part depended on were not getting built in time, so I ended up having to build something that I could use to push and pull data, which turned out to be different from how the other developer that was actually building that part envisioned it. I turned it in and they said, well no...we want this done this way and that done this way. I am like, well WTH didn't you tell me that to begin with. Had I had that information, I would have structured things a lot differently. This was a total train wreck caused by their implementation of agile and not having a coherent plan on how they wanted the application designed and structured. Just leaving it to the developers and then bitching when the developers didn't guess the right way is not a way to run things. So then we end up being late on the deliverables. I ended up getting let go because I just had no good way to tie in the project with all the new changes with the way I had originally designed it. What an utter cluster fuck. My other experiences with agile have not been that much different. I have never worked in a shop where agile works as it says it is supposed to work on paper. I think agile processing should be banned completely and anyone that even brings it up should be tarred and feathered and run off of the planet. Agile purity...LOL...I think that is a mythological state... -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 7:14 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Sometimes... Hour long 'scrum', regardless of the reason, is doing it wrong. PM should be giving client a briefing based on the daily scrum or if client insists on being on call, they should play by the 'rules'. Sounds like client doesn't understand how the daily scrum is supposed to work and that no one is willing/able to explain it. On Aug 4, 2014 1:10 PM, "GMoney" <[email protected]> wrote: > > He might be under similar constraints that my project is given. The > client deemed our project "essential" and "critical", and they want > observation and updates daily.....so we are forced to have our clients > on the phone with us for our daily standups. You can imagine how this > complicates things. > > Agile scrums can be corrupted just like any other process...we've had > hour long stand-ups because the client steers them that way. Eric > probably has some similar externality that is butchering his Agile purity. > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hour scrum? > > > > Yea...you are doing it so very wrong. > > > > If our daily scrum is more than 5 minutes, I get antsy. > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Eric Roberts < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > We have an hour meeting every day for our scrum, plus a > > > retrospective > > and a > > > scrum panning session during a new sprint. Those meetings can go > > > up > to 2 > > > hrs...I think it is just an excuse for management not to do it's job... > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 10:41 AM > > > To: cf-community > > > Subject: Re: Sometimes... > > > > > > > > > Again....if you spend that much time in meetings, you are not > > > doing > > 'agile' > > > correctly. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 8:32 AM, GMoney <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > AMEN!!! > > > > > > > > Our shop is going full blown Agile, and the meetings are driving > > > > me > > nuts. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website > Solutions > > > > < [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > LoL, that is priceless. > > > > > > > > > > I'm so glad our team isn't agile. Waste of frigging time that is... > > > > > > > > > > 2 days a sprint wasted to meetings. > > > > > > > > > > Working with the agile process I see LOL > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: C. Hatton Humphrey [mailto:[email protected]] > > > > > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 1:14 PM > > > > > To: cf-community > > > > > Subject: Sometimes... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, have to vent. Work's being a bit more "bang head > > > > > here"-ish than usual. Guess the next skills I need to develop > > > > > to advance my career are telepathy, time travel and insomnia. > > > > > > > > > > Happy Friday, folks! > > > > > > > > > > Until Later! > > > > > C. Hatton Humphrey > > > > > http://www.eastcoastconservative.com > > > > > > > > > > Every cloud does have a silver lining. 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