Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
EDIETS.COM
954.360.9022 X159
ICQ 417645
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 11:15 AM
Subject: Manners and Courtesies (was Re: Super Duper Controversial
post....heheh)


> That's one of the reasons I'm not for sending my daughter to a private
> school or doing homeschooling.  I know that children need social
> interaction in order to be socially functional, however there are things
> that happen in public schools that I really don't agree with.
>
> Veering from the topic of homosexuality, I'll bring up the subject of
> manners and courtesies.  Let me ask these questions of the guys on this
> list... a little informal survey:
>
> - When you are leaving someplace and there are people behind you,
> regardless of gender, do you hold the door for them?
>
Always(Even when i'm in a bad mood)

> - If you see someone holding a door that you are going through and there
> are more people behind you, do you offer to "catch it" for them?
>
most of the time

> - (For those with families) Do you eat a meal at a dinner table?  Is it
> propper to wear a hat or cap (non-religous) during the meal?
>
mostly, no hats

> - When addressing someone, are the words "sir" and "ma'am" used?
>
always

> I'll stop there... there are tons of examples of respects, courtesites
> and manners that are considered "old school" that I personally don't
> think should disappear.
>
Yea i agree people are much ruder these days, lol my parents always taught
me to be respectful to people and
treat them how you would want to be treated and i do my best to follow and
make sure my step kids follow.
Though sometimes i have violated the rule.

BTW mikey whats the link for the pictures on the Member board? i have to
post my bald pic :)
The girl at the place i always eat lunch says ialways look mad since i've
shaved my head lol.

I was walking through walmart and these 2 arian lookig guys (way worse then
me, 1 bald, 1 mohawk, full leather arian type gear)
they said HI to me when i was going by, after i had seen them blow off
everyone else they walked past
lol i guess ilooked like one of the clan. geesh :P

> Hatton
>
> Bill Wheatley wrote:
>
> > but that is a good reason homeschooling is rebounding as well as it is.
> > You could always do that and then your children would see "Your" version
of
> > the world and politics, sex, etc everything.
> >
> > Then when they take a step out into a real world we can hope it doesnt
hit
> > them as hard as a bus when they see lifes not all its cracked upto be.
> >
> > Bill Wheatley
> > Senior Database Developer
> > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
> > EDIETS.COM
> > 954.360.9022 X159
> > ICQ 417645
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> >
> >
> >
> >>Don't ever equate close-mindedness with the place of the parents when it
> >>comes to education.
> >>
> >>Also, don't assume that because I don't want a public school to go into
> >>the details of the medical and mental reasons for homosexuality that I
> >>am close-minded.
> >>
> >> From a personal perspective it is my choice when and how my child is
> >>educated about sensetive and contreversial subjects.  This need not be
> >>restricted to sexual orientation, but can be extended to religons other
> >>  than the one my family practices, marriage and divorce, money skills,
> >>manners, respect and courtesies, etc.
> >>
> >>Hatton
> >>
> >>Bill Wheatley wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>To quote one of those quotes from the other days email
> >>>
> >>>Saying you don't approve of homosexuality is like saying you don't
> >>>
> > approve
> >
> >>>of rain.
> >>>
> >>>Its like saying you don't want schools to teach kids about rain and
> >>>close-minded people can be as close-minded as they want
> >>>I just find it incredibly funny how people can be sometimes.
> >>>
> >>>Bill Wheatley
> >>>Senior Database Developer
> >>>Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
> >>>EDIETS.COM
> >>>954.360.9022 X159
> >>>ICQ 417645
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:55 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>The Civil Rights movement was originally designed to try and break
down
> >>>>the barriers that kept blacks out of board rooms and country clubs.  I
> >>>>am in complete agreement with the concept of making sure that the
color
> >>>>of a person's skin, their religous or sexual preferences... even nasty
> >>>>habits all be ignored when it comes to jobs, benifits and freedoms.
> >>>>
> >>>>However, I also agree wholeheartedly that I should not be forced to
have
> >>>>my daughter taught that "sometimes men just love men and women just
love
> >>>>women" when she gets to elementary school.
> >>>>
> >>>>Hatton
> >>>>
> >>>>Larry Lyons wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Given that the consensus now is that homosexuality is biologically
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>based, I
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>take it that you consider it ok to discriminate against people based
on
> >>>>>factors that they cannot control.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Isn't that what the civil rights stuff in the late 50's and early
60's
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>was
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>all about?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>Larry C. Lyons
> >>>>>ColdFusion/Web Developer
> >>>>>Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> >>>>>EBStor.com
> >>>>>8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> >>>>>Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> >>>>>tel:   (703) 393-7930
> >>>>>fax:   (703) 393-2659
> >>>>>Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> >>>>>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> >>>>>--
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:00 PM
> >>>>>>To: CF-Community
> >>>>>>Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Here is my take on Homosexuality.  What you do in the privacy of
your
> >>>>>>own home is your business.  I support equal rights for gay
> >>>>>>people, they
> >>>>>>are people, they don't however, deserve special rights.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:59 PM
> >>>>>>To: CF-Community
> >>>>>>Subject: Super Duper Contraversial post....heheh
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362
> >>>>>>admonishments
> >>>>>>to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love
> >>>>>>heterosexuals.
> >>>>>>It's just that they need more supervision.     ~Lynn Lavner
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to
> >>>>>>work: "Hello.
> >>>>>>Can't work today, still queer."    ~Robin Tyler
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I'd rather be black than gay because when you're black you don't
have
> >>>>>>to
> >>>>>>tell your mother. ~Charles Pierce, 1980
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>War. Rape. Murder. Poverty. Equal rights for gays. Guess
> >>>>>>which one the
> >>>>>>Southern Baptist Convention is protesting?    ~The Value of Families
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Jesse Helms and Newt Gingrich were shaking hands congratulating
> >>>>>>themselves on the introduction of an antigay bill in Congress. If it
> >>>>>>passes,
> >>>>>>they  won't be able to shake hands, because it will then be
> >>>>>>illegal for
> >>>>>>a
> >>>>>>prick to touch an asshole.         ~Judy Carter
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>'You could move.'    ~Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby," in
> >>>>>>response to a
> >>>>>>reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across
> >>>>>>the street
> >>>>>>and
> >>>>>>wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the
> >>>>>>neighborhood.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>The one bonus of not lifting the ban on gays in the military is that
> >>>>>>the
> >>>>>>next time the government mandates a draft we can all declare
> >>>>>>homosexuality
> >>>>>>instead of running off to Canada.   ~Lorne Bloch
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Why can't they have gay people in the army?  Personally, I think
they
> >>>>>>are
> >>>>>>just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd you call a
> >>>>>>faggot?"
> >>>>>>~ Jon Stewart
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity.  All those women out
> >>>>>>there
> >>>>>>praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share.       ~Rita Mae
Brown
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, torture or
death
> >>>>>>say
> >>>>>>they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as
> >>>>>>soldiers;
> >>>>>>we should be used as weapons. ~Letter to the Editor, The Advocate
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have
to
> >>>>>>be
> >>>>>>able to shoot straight.   ~Barry Goldwater
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men
> >>>>>>holding guns than holding hands?      ~Ernest Gaines
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>My own belief is that there is hardly anyone whose sexual life, if
it
> >>>>>>were
> >>>>>>broadcast, would not fill the world at large with surprise and
horror.
> >>>>>>~W. Somerset Maugham
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Drag is when a man wears everything a lesbian won't.     ~Author
> >>>>>>Unknown
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>If male homosexuals are called "gay," then female
> >>>>>>homosexuals should be
> >>>>>>called "ecstatic."    ~Shelly Roberts
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>My mother took me to a psychiatrist when I was fifteen because she
> >>>>>>thought
> >>>>>>I was a latent homosexual. There was nothing latent about it.
> >>>>>>~Amanda
> >>>>>>Bearse
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Some women can't say the word lesbian...even when their mouth is
full
> >>>>>>of
> >>>>>>one.    ~Kate Clinton
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>No matter how far in or out of the closet you are, you still have a
> >>>>>>next
> >>>>>>step.      ~Author Unknown
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of
> >>>>>>homosexuality.
> >>>>>>It's like disapproving of rain.      ~Francis Maude
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>The only queer people are those who don't love anybody.     ~Rita
Mae
> >>>>>>Brown
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >
> 
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