Hatton- you hit on one of my pet peeves, the lack of common courtesy and manners in much of today's society.
Yes, I'm old fashioned. I hold the door for anyone behind me. I say "thank you" if someone does it for me. I don't talk on my cell phone at a restaurant table. I don't talk out loud in a movie theater. I make room to let people change lanes (if they signal). Let's start a new group: NAAOFWM - National Assn. for Advancement of Old Farts With Manners - and hold a parade :-) -Ben > That's one of the reasons I'm not for sending my daughter to a private > school or doing homeschooling. I know that children need social > interaction in order to be socially functional, however there are things > that happen in public schools that I really don't agree with. > > Veering from the topic of homosexuality, I'll bring up the subject of > manners and courtesies. Let me ask these questions of the guys on this > list... a little informal survey: > > - When you are leaving someplace and there are people behind you, > regardless of gender, do you hold the door for them? > > - If you see someone holding a door that you are going through and there > are more people behind you, do you offer to "catch it" for them? > > - (For those with families) Do you eat a meal at a dinner table? Is it > propper to wear a hat or cap (non-religous) during the meal? > > - When addressing someone, are the words "sir" and "ma'am" used? > > I'll stop there... there are tons of examples of respects, courtesites > and manners that are considered "old school" that I personally don't > think should disappear. > > Hatton > > Bill Wheatley wrote: > > > but that is a good reason homeschooling is rebounding as well as it is. > > You could always do that and then your children would see "Your" version of > > the world and politics, sex, etc everything. > > > > Then when they take a step out into a real world we can hope it doesnt hit > > them as hard as a bus when they see lifes not all its cracked upto be. > > > > Bill Wheatley > > Senior Database Developer > > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > > EDIETS.COM > > 954.360.9022 X159 > > ICQ 417645 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:47 AM > > Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > > >>Don't ever equate close-mindedness with the place of the parents when it > >>comes to education. > >> > >>Also, don't assume that because I don't want a public school to go into > >>the details of the medical and mental reasons for homosexuality that I > >>am close-minded. > >> > >> From a personal perspective it is my choice when and how my child is > >>educated about sensetive and contreversial subjects. This need not be > >>restricted to sexual orientation, but can be extended to religons other > >> than the one my family practices, marriage and divorce, money skills, > >>manners, respect and courtesies, etc. > >> > >>Hatton > >> > >>Bill Wheatley wrote: > >> > >> > >>>To quote one of those quotes from the other days email > >>> > >>>Saying you don't approve of homosexuality is like saying you don't > >>> > > approve > > > >>>of rain. > >>> > >>>Its like saying you don't want schools to teach kids about rain and > >>>close-minded people can be as close-minded as they want > >>>I just find it incredibly funny how people can be sometimes. > >>> > >>>Bill Wheatley > >>>Senior Database Developer > >>>Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > >>>EDIETS.COM > >>>954.360.9022 X159 > >>>ICQ 417645 > >>>----- Original Message ----- > >>>From: "Hatton Humphrey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:55 AM > >>>Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>The Civil Rights movement was originally designed to try and break down > >>>>the barriers that kept blacks out of board rooms and country clubs. I > >>>>am in complete agreement with the concept of making sure that the color > >>>>of a person's skin, their religous or sexual preferences... even nasty > >>>>habits all be ignored when it comes to jobs, benifits and freedoms. > >>>> > >>>>However, I also agree wholeheartedly that I should not be forced to have > >>>>my daughter taught that "sometimes men just love men and women just love > >>>>women" when she gets to elementary school. > >>>> > >>>>Hatton > >>>> > >>>>Larry Lyons wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>Given that the consensus now is that homosexuality is biologically > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>based, I > >>> > >>> > >>>>>take it that you consider it ok to discriminate against people based on > >>>>>factors that they cannot control. > >>>>> > >>>>>Isn't that what the civil rights stuff in the late 50's and early 60's > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>was > >>> > >>> > >>>>>all about? > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>-- > >>>>>Larry C. Lyons > >>>>>ColdFusion/Web Developer > >>>>>Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > >>>>>EBStor.com > >>>>>8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > >>>>>Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > >>>>>tel: (703) 393-7930 > >>>>>fax: (703) 393-2659 > >>>>>Web: http://www.ebstor.com > >>>>>email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > >>>>>-- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:00 PM > >>>>>>To: CF-Community > >>>>>>Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Here is my take on Homosexuality. What you do in the privacy of your > >>>>>>own home is your business. I support equal rights for gay > >>>>>>people, they > >>>>>>are people, they don't however, deserve special rights. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>-----Original Message----- > >>>>>>From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>>>>>Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:59 PM > >>>>>>To: CF-Community > >>>>>>Subject: Super Duper Contraversial post....heheh > >>>>>> > >>>>>>The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 > >>>>>>admonishments > >>>>>>to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love > >>>>>>heterosexuals. > >>>>>>It's just that they need more supervision. ~Lynn Lavner > >>>>>> > >>>>>>If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to > >>>>>>work: "Hello. > >>>>>>Can't work today, still queer." ~Robin Tyler > >>>>>> > >>>>>>I'd rather be black than gay because when you're black you don't have > >>>>>>to > >>>>>>tell your mother. ~Charles Pierce, 1980 > >>>>>> > >>>>>>War. Rape. Murder. Poverty. Equal rights for gays. Guess > >>>>>>which one the > >>>>>>Southern Baptist Convention is protesting? ~The Value of Families > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Jesse Helms and Newt Gingrich were shaking hands congratulating > >>>>>>themselves on the introduction of an antigay bill in Congress. If it > >>>>>>passes, > >>>>>>they won't be able to shake hands, because it will then be > >>>>>>illegal for > >>>>>>a > >>>>>>prick to touch an asshole. ~Judy Carter > >>>>>> > >>>>>>'You could move.' ~Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby," in > >>>>>>response to a > >>>>>>reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across > >>>>>>the street > >>>>>>and > >>>>>>wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the > >>>>>>neighborhood. > >>>>>> > >>>>>>The one bonus of not lifting the ban on gays in the military is that > >>>>>>the > >>>>>>next time the government mandates a draft we can all declare > >>>>>>homosexuality > >>>>>>instead of running off to Canada. ~Lorne Bloch > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Why can't they have gay people in the army? Personally, I think they > >>>>>>are > >>>>>>just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd you call a > >>>>>>faggot?" > >>>>>>~ Jon Stewart > >>>>>> > >>>>>>My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity. All those women out > >>>>>>there > >>>>>>praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share. ~Rita Mae Brown > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, torture or death > >>>>>>say > >>>>>>they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as > >>>>>>soldiers; > >>>>>>we should be used as weapons. ~Letter to the Editor, The Advocate > >>>>>> > >>>>>>You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to > >>>>>>be > >>>>>>able to shoot straight. ~Barry Goldwater > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men > >>>>>>holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines > >>>>>> > >>>>>>My own belief is that there is hardly anyone whose sexual life, if it > >>>>>>were > >>>>>>broadcast, would not fill the world at large with surprise and horror. > >>>>>>~W. Somerset Maugham > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Drag is when a man wears everything a lesbian won't. ~Author > >>>>>>Unknown > >>>>>> > >>>>>>If male homosexuals are called "gay," then female > >>>>>>homosexuals should be > >>>>>>called "ecstatic." ~Shelly Roberts > >>>>>> > >>>>>>My mother took me to a psychiatrist when I was fifteen because she > >>>>>>thought > >>>>>>I was a latent homosexual. There was nothing latent about it. > >>>>>>~Amanda > >>>>>>Bearse > >>>>>> > >>>>>>Some women can't say the word lesbian...even when their mouth is full > >>>>>>of > >>>>>>one. ~Kate Clinton > >>>>>> > >>>>>>No matter how far in or out of the closet you are, you still have a > >>>>>>next > >>>>>>step. ~Author Unknown > >>>>>> > >>>>>>It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of > >>>>>>homosexuality. > >>>>>>It's like disapproving of rain. ~Francis Maude > >>>>>> > >>>>>>The only queer people are those who don't love anybody. ~Rita Mae > >>>>>>Brown > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
