Quoting mark smyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> can somebody tell me why?

I don't think so.

> the Palestinians and doing what they are doing according to the media
> ( which is disgraceful before anyone jumps on me) because of the
> Irazeli occupation of the gaza strip

Gaza Strip => Gaza Strip + West Bank + Jerusalem

> obtained during the 6 day war(please feel free to correct me if i am
> wrong)

So they claim. But then again, a weak ago GW was claiming that all 
Saddam had to do was accept weapons inspectors. And now we know better.

Personally, I think that a significant part, but not all, of the 
violence would stop if a new Iron Curtain along the border of before 
the 6 day war was build and the 2 societies were separated. (Leaving 
Jerusalem out of the equation for now.)


> I'm fairly ignorant about the situation there (as i have said
> before), so why don't the Israeli's move out of that area and stop
> the conflict, if for nothing else the safety of their people, its
> obvious by now that the Palestinians will never stop?

Because history is repeating itself.

Military occupation for self protection is a first step, and stepping 
back is relatively easy. (The US could move out of Afghanistan without 
any problems for the US itself, just an increased risk of having to go 
back there some time in the future.)
But if you allow people to settle in those territories part of the 
electorate becomes dependent on the continuation of the occupation. 
Because it is quite clear that if the occupation ends, people will 
reclaim the land. Not a welcome option for a lot of people who depends 
on that land to grow their crops.
Add in a bit of dependency on cheap labour in Israel itself (haven't 
heard any numbers the last few years, could have changed), some 
neighbouring countries where the governmental elite has an interest in 
continuation of the current situation, some worries about available 
freshwater and you have a very explosive mix. Quite like the 
colonization process, and the following decolonization.

And then we even leave out that some people believe in things written 
in some very old books.


> Also what is the deal between Israel and america (there is obviously
> something going on)? 
> 
> In the same way there is something going on between the US and the UK
> (the way the UK follows the US regardless of policy is disgracecful
> in my opinion),is it just to bolster the UK's position with Europe?

Those are the 2 least interesting ones I think.

What is going on between the US and Saudi Arabia)? It looks like the US 
has every intention of repeating what it did in Iran in the seventies 
with the Sjah.
What is going on between the US and Pakistan? If we are talking about 
countries with a confirmed mass destruction capability and an instable 
government, Pakistan tops the list.

Jochem
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