Actually, I prefer the way the Iranians handled a murderer. Throw him over a jagged cliff in bag. If he is not dead after that then you hang him.
----- Original Message ----- From: "William Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Possible Sniper Arrest > Yea but they are closing them after a shooting.... > Try just doing it before maybe we'll catch him on his way to cap some poor > bastard > > Oh well we can all give our Sherlock Holmes type hints lol > > Sometimes i think the islamic law is pertty good :) Steal something loose a > hand > > maybe we could cstone him to death > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timothy Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:04 AM > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > Yeah, > > He has been primarily doing it during those times. Makes it easy to get > lost in traffic I assume. They have been closing the highways pretty > regularly lately trying to catch up with him. > > > > Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:02 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > dude no matter what we do people will always find a way to get a gun or a > > weapon its just not going to stop > > > > and 150 meters yea isnt a long way but these peopl ei bet never saw it > > coming which means if we all had guns it wouldnt change the fact that this > > sob is getting away with murder for now. > > > > :) I was thinking what fun it would be for them to setup roadblocks > > everymorning early > > > > has this cheesedick been shooting people either LATE at night or very > early > > in the am?? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:59 AM > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > I see. So, theoretically at least, this gun may have been acquired > legally > > > in another state, and bought into Maryland? So surely preventing legal > > > acquisition of guns would go some way to stopping individuals like this > > from > > > owning them? > > > > > > w > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov] > > > Sent: 22 October 2002 13:54 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > The states al have different gun laws. So while the gun may be illegal > in > > > Maryland, it may not be in Virginia. That is one of the things that > makes > > > the debate more difficult. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:will@;hothorse.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:52 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > OK...well, I bow to your obviously superior knowledge about firearms. > I'm > > > not sure what difference it makes though. > > > > > > But surely your last point just underlines what I'm saying about > stricter > > > gun laws, if you are suggesting this could be a legally owned weapon, > > which > > > incidentally contradicts your earlier point. > > > > > > Out of interest, in this context, what are we defining as a legally or > > > illegally owned weapons, as I am unfamiliar with the intricacies of gun > > law > > > in different states in the US? > > > > > > w > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov] > > > Sent: 22 October 2002 13:42 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > Actually Will, being pretty experienced I can tell you that there is > > little > > > difference. In many cases they are the very same rifle. The round this > > > current "Sniper" (I have a problem calling anyone taking body shots at > 150 > > > meters a sniper) is using is a 5.56 mm (.223 cal.). This is only a > medium > > > round lighter than a 7.62 that is standard in the Army for snipers, and > > much > > > lighter than the 30-06 that was the mainstay of the original crop of > > Marine > > > snipers that brought the skill back to the modern battlefield. > > > > > > The .223 is a very common round. It is the main round of the US Army, > and > > > many hunting rifles are chambered in it. It is cheap and can be bought > in > > > bulk. Basically this is probably a hunting rifle or an AR-15 (civilian > > > version of an M-16). Could be a lot of completely legal single shot or > > bolt > > > action rifles that were designed for hunting or sport shooting. > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:will@;hothorse.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:28 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > well, not being an expert I couldn't say for sure, but I would guess one > > the > > > main differences would be range and accuracy. Also, presumably a sniper > > > rifle is designed specifically to kill people. > > > > > > Not sure what you are getting at. > > > > > > w > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov] > > > Sent: 22 October 2002 13:23 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > Will, > > > If you would, please tell me the difference between a high powered > sniper > > > rifle and a normal hunting rifle? > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:will@;hothorse.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:09 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > The toughest gun laws are surely those which prohibit all ownership of > > guns? > > > We are fortunate enough over here to have such gun laws, which were > > > tightened even further after Dunblane, where the protagonist was a > member > > of > > > a gun club. The result is we haven't had another similar situation in > this > > > country since. Although gun crime is on the increase over here, you are > > > still very unlikely to be mugged at gun point for example. It just seems > > > common sense to me that less guns in circulation means less gun crime. > > > > > > As for this sniper, I think it would be very difficult for someone to > > > actually get hold of a high powered sniper rifle over here illegally, > > > because of our strict gun laws, and therefore much less likely that such > a > > > thing would happen. > > > > > > Has the argument over gun law come up as a result of this sniper over > > there? > > > > > > Will > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov] > > > Sent: 22 October 2002 12:48 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > No. > > > > > > He is committing murder which in and of itself is a crime. Using > firearms > > > during the commission of a crime is a crime. Possession of a gun by > many > > > people is a crime. Maryland has some of the toughest gun laws around, > so > > > this gun is probably already illegal. So no. I don't think more gun > law > > > would have stopped this at all. > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Will Swain [mailto:will@;hothorse.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:37 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > Is it possible that if you weren't allowed to own guns, this might not > > have > > > happened? > > > > > > w > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov] > > > Sent: 22 October 2002 12:15 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > Latest shooting is about 2 miles up the road from me. The place I am > > > staying right now was close to all of the original 4 or 5 shootings. > > Pretty > > > freaky. I had really hoped the arrests yesterday were pertinent. Oh > > well. > > > > > > I am just pissed because my son isn't going to have a real Halloween. I > > > mean I think about all the kids (especially seniors trying to get into > > > university) who loose their sports and other extra curricular > activities. > > > All the over time the police are putting in, all the extra traffic and > > > hassle. I board at the Glenmont station to ride the metro to work. As > I > > > was pulling in this morning a virtual army of patrol cars and such went > > > screaming by. I am so sick of this. One person in the right place and > > time > > > and all this goes away. > > > > > > I hope they catch this guy soon, and I hope he makes it nice and easy > and > > > tries to fight arrest. > > > > > > Sniper my ass. Ask me again why I think private citizens should be able > > to > > > carry guns. > > > > > > Tim > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mark Smyth [mailto:mark.smyth@;systemsunion.net] > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:12 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > what a welcome to america :) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com] > > > Sent: 22 October 2002 02:46 > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Possible Sniper Arrest > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately the arrested turned out to be a couple of Guatemalan > migrant > > > workers who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. > > > <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58747-2002Oct21.html> > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_community Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
