Yeah,
He has been primarily doing it during those times. Makes it easy to get lost
in traffic I assume. They have been closing the highways pretty regularly lately
trying to catch up with him.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: William Wheatley [mailto:bill@;ediets.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:02 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Possible Sniper Arrest
dude no matter what we do people will always find a way to get a gun or a
weapon its just not going to stop
and 150 meters yea isnt a long way but these peopl ei bet never saw it
coming which means if we all had guns it wouldnt change the fact that this
sob is getting away with murder for now.
:) I was thinking what fun it would be for them to setup roadblocks
everymorning early
has this cheesedick been shooting people either LATE at night or very early
in the am??
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
> I see. So, theoretically at least, this gun may have been acquired legally
> in another state, and bought into Maryland? So surely preventing legal
> acquisition of guns would go some way to stopping individuals like this
from
> owning them?
>
> w
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov]
> Sent: 22 October 2002 13:54
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> The states al have different gun laws. So while the gun may be illegal in
> Maryland, it may not be in Virginia. That is one of the things that makes
> the debate more difficult.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [mailto:will@;hothorse.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> OK...well, I bow to your obviously superior knowledge about firearms. I'm
> not sure what difference it makes though.
>
> But surely your last point just underlines what I'm saying about stricter
> gun laws, if you are suggesting this could be a legally owned weapon,
which
> incidentally contradicts your earlier point.
>
> Out of interest, in this context, what are we defining as a legally or
> illegally owned weapons, as I am unfamiliar with the intricacies of gun
law
> in different states in the US?
>
> w
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov]
> Sent: 22 October 2002 13:42
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> Actually Will, being pretty experienced I can tell you that there is
little
> difference. In many cases they are the very same rifle. The round this
> current "Sniper" (I have a problem calling anyone taking body shots at 150
> meters a sniper) is using is a 5.56 mm (.223 cal.). This is only a medium
> round lighter than a 7.62 that is standard in the Army for snipers, and
much
> lighter than the 30-06 that was the mainstay of the original crop of
Marine
> snipers that brought the skill back to the modern battlefield.
>
> The .223 is a very common round. It is the main round of the US Army, and
> many hunting rifles are chambered in it. It is cheap and can be bought in
> bulk. Basically this is probably a hunting rifle or an AR-15 (civilian
> version of an M-16). Could be a lot of completely legal single shot or
bolt
> action rifles that were designed for hunting or sport shooting.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [mailto:will@;hothorse.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:28 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> well, not being an expert I couldn't say for sure, but I would guess one
the
> main differences would be range and accuracy. Also, presumably a sniper
> rifle is designed specifically to kill people.
>
> Not sure what you are getting at.
>
> w
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov]
> Sent: 22 October 2002 13:23
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> Will,
> If you would, please tell me the difference between a high powered sniper
> rifle and a normal hunting rifle?
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [mailto:will@;hothorse.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 8:09 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> The toughest gun laws are surely those which prohibit all ownership of
guns?
> We are fortunate enough over here to have such gun laws, which were
> tightened even further after Dunblane, where the protagonist was a member
of
> a gun club. The result is we haven't had another similar situation in this
> country since. Although gun crime is on the increase over here, you are
> still very unlikely to be mugged at gun point for example. It just seems
> common sense to me that less guns in circulation means less gun crime.
>
> As for this sniper, I think it would be very difficult for someone to
> actually get hold of a high powered sniper rifle over here illegally,
> because of our strict gun laws, and therefore much less likely that such a
> thing would happen.
>
> Has the argument over gun law come up as a result of this sniper over
there?
>
> Will
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov]
> Sent: 22 October 2002 12:48
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> No.
>
> He is committing murder which in and of itself is a crime. Using firearms
> during the commission of a crime is a crime. Possession of a gun by many
> people is a crime. Maryland has some of the toughest gun laws around, so
> this gun is probably already illegal. So no. I don't think more gun law
> would have stopped this at all.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Swain [mailto:will@;hothorse.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 7:37 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> Is it possible that if you weren't allowed to own guns, this might not
have
> happened?
>
> w
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Timothy Heald [mailto:healdt@;dsmail.state.gov]
> Sent: 22 October 2002 12:15
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> Latest shooting is about 2 miles up the road from me. The place I am
> staying right now was close to all of the original 4 or 5 shootings.
Pretty
> freaky. I had really hoped the arrests yesterday were pertinent. Oh
well.
>
> I am just pissed because my son isn't going to have a real Halloween. I
> mean I think about all the kids (especially seniors trying to get into
> university) who loose their sports and other extra curricular activities.
> All the over time the police are putting in, all the extra traffic and
> hassle. I board at the Glenmont station to ride the metro to work. As I
> was pulling in this morning a virtual army of patrol cars and such went
> screaming by. I am so sick of this. One person in the right place and
time
> and all this goes away.
>
> I hope they catch this guy soon, and I hope he makes it nice and easy and
> tries to fight arrest.
>
> Sniper my ass. Ask me again why I think private citizens should be able
to
> carry guns.
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Smyth [mailto:mark.smyth@;systemsunion.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:12 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> what a welcome to america :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:llyons@;ebstor.com]
> Sent: 22 October 2002 02:46
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Possible Sniper Arrest
>
>
> Unfortunately the arrested turned out to be a couple of Guatemalan migrant
> workers who were in the wrong place at the wrong time.
> <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58747-2002Oct21.html>
>
> larry
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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