> From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:vviehe@;macromedia.com] > Hey Wayne, > > We dropped the price of CFMX Pro from CF 5 Pro. Enterprise & > subscription did go up by $4, but I doubt you're referring to that. > > We certainly are trying to bolster the enterprise market by > offering CFMX on J2EE, but that's not really a move away from > anything, it's adding to. > > Did I missunderstand, or can you elaborate on your perception a bit?
Well the first part of my post is fairly simple, I tend to work as a contract developer for various design houses in my area, they no longer use CF as they are moving to PHP - if I want the work I have to follow. There are still two CF shops around here but they concentrate on the "big sites" and have development teams of 10 or more people. The other type of work I do are sites for smaller companies, for these I do everything from initial design to search engine submission. The usual budget is 2-5k for a fairly straightforward dynamic site. Now it doesn't matter to me how brilliant web services or flash integration etc. are, my customers don't need it and they certainly can't afford it. The fact is I can offer them more for the same money by using PHP, it doesn't take any longer to code once you are used to it and there is a far wider selection of excellent quality free code out there I can use compared to CF. Hosting is another issue, I can get a dedicated server for �35 a month set up with Linux/Apache/MySql/PHP, to use CF I have to upgrade the server and spend a not inconsiderable amount on software. No contest. I am sad about it, I was converted to CF by Mr Forte himself at a conference when version 3 came out, I have done dozens of sites in CF but I find it harder and harder to justify using it - even to myself. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:wayne@;welshnet.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 6:58 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: My last CF site? > > > I fear that I may have coded my last CF site, all the work in > my area seems to be moving towards PHP - and much as I love > CF I have to pay the bills. The other problem is that MM seem > to be moving CF towards the expensive enterprise sites rather > than the small companies that are my usual customers, even > the faster development time/cost for CF argument no longer > really applies as you can code (or should that read > Drag'n'Drop) PHP as quickly as CF in DWMX. > > On the bright side PHP is nothing like as bad as I imagined > it would be, I particularly like using the Object oriented > stuff to reuse code. > > But the important thing is - will I have to stop reading the > CF Community list? > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
