Jim,

Well said. I'd love to know where you get your statements on the growth of CF usage. 
Is this among bigger companies, or in certain areas? Are there any surveys out there?

Judith 

  From: Jim Davis 
  To: CF-Community 
  Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 9:29 PM
  Subject: RE: My last CF site?


  > > It sounds like what you were saying is that lower-cost
  > > options have become more attractive to you in a smaller-scale 
  > > setting, and you don't feel like we're addressing that shift, 
  > > but instead developing more support for enterprise uses of CF.
  > > 
  > > Did I get the gist right?
  > > 
  > > -Vern
  > 
  > Pretty much, I suppose you could say that CF has lost it's 
  > traditional advantages of fast dev time, community support 
  > etc. and up against a free product it's a no brainer. PHPs 
  > major drawback was the lack of a good editor, there seem to 
  > be a few OK ones about now though (although nothing to 
  > compare with CF Studio), ironically DWMX seems to be as good 
  > as it gets for PHP at the moment.

  I like PHP but it's still got nothing on CF as far as ease of
  development goes.  CF stills wins that battle hands down.  In my opinion
  of course.

  PHP community support is great (and for an open-source tool pretty much
  required). But CF's community support has never been stronger and is
  continuously one of the best in the business: others may be larger, but
  very few (perhaps none) have the cohesiveness of the CF community.

  I suppose what I'm saying is that PHP DOES, absolutely does, have all
  the things you've mentioned. But the assertion that because IT does
  means that CF has "lost" is just sloppy reasoning.  Both (or any number
  of) products can have the same advantages.

  The simple fact is that CF usage is growing wildly.  Most of the sales
  of CFMX this year have been from new customers.  It is a paid product
  and will continue to be a paid product (unless somebody comes up with a
  corporately attractive open-source model).

  I personally think that it's telling that even costing as much as it
  does it's still popular and gaining popularity quickly.  PHP is gaining
  popularity as well - perhaps because it's free, but there's definitely
  other reasons.

  The fact that both are gaining users simply says to me that both are
  damn fine products.  If people just wanted free they would have stayed
  with PERL and Java.  And if free really was all that mattered CF just
  wouldn't be doing so darn well.

  Jim Davis


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