Thanks Vern! -Kevin Graeme
> -----Original Message----- > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:vviehe@;macromedia.com] > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:42 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: My last CF site? > > > I don't have any specific info on why sandbox was selected for > inclusion in Ent and not Pro, but I'll certainly pass along the > feedback/suggestions. > > Thanks! > > -Vern > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:kgraeme@;facstaff.wisc.edu] > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:44 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: My last CF site? > > > This is an old argument, I know, but just looking at installation > costs, CF > is competing with free. And most hosting sites put you into their more > expensive packages if you want CF capability. > > For independent sites or freelance developers, it's pretty hard > to justify. > CF as a language is perfectly geared towards the personal or > small site that > wants easy middleware capability. Small as in no budget. These > are still the > majority of web sites out there. And for freelance work, it's not easy > either. I generally avoid freelance, but I've got a potential job > coming up. > The customer has already signed up with a hosting service and has > a "coming > soon" page up there. Of course, the host doesn't support CF and there's no > way now that I'm going to talk the customer into switching hosts, > especially > considering that most CF hosting is more expensive than ASP/PHP. > > I agree with Jochem's observation of Sandboxing vs Pro. Perhaps more hosts > would support CF if they could run the Pro version (at the Pro price) and > get sandboxing capability. That might help push the market for CF. > > -Kevin > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Davis [mailto:jim@;depressedpress.com] > > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 12:15 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: My last CF site? > > > > > > > I don't see CF dying for lack of interest by MM. I do see > > > them pricing it out of the ballpark of reasonable options for > > > most people though, which has much the same effect. > > > > I don't know... MX seems downright cheap to me. Not personally of > > course, but most small-midranged sites (at least any site that would > > have to buy the server) would be in the range of several thousand to > > several 10s of thousands of dollars. > > > > For smaller sites the key is finding a good CF host (and more of them > > are appearing all the time). > > > > It also depends, unfortunately, on regional rates. In my case (Boston) > > $100/hour is pretty average, so CFMX Pro is equivalent to less than a > > day's work. And since it saves (generally) more than it makes sense. > > > > If you're working at $25/hour however then it's nearly a week of work... > > A much harder sell. > > > > Again, for a really small site however you're not looking the cost of > > the server, you're looking at the hosting costs. For developer's in > > this scenario Macromedia (and Allaire before them) have generally been > > great about providing free/low cost developer tools. > > > > > Flash Generator/Comm Server is even worse. > > > > Now that I can agree one... Although much of the Comm server > > functionality (if not all) is built into CFMX so that, at least, is one > > thing you don't have to buy. > > > > Jim Davis > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
