For years, there have been groups that have claimed to "cure" 
homosexuality through "Christian" therapy.  At one point in grad 
school I looked at doing an analysis of the success of such 
treatments. I gave it up after I got completely stonewalled trying to 
get information about the programs' treatment success rates. None of 
these groups were telling. I then went through the psych literature 
back to the early 50's. Briefly the only studies that reported so 
called successfull conversions were uncontrolled case studies. I 
found one real study that actually reported follow rates - 6 months. 
Their results went from miserable to worse. after 6 months only one 
participant reported not being attracted to members of the opposite 
sex. So from what the data suggest, you cannot be forced to be gay, 
or straight.

larry

>  > -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>  Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 1:49 PM
>>  To: CF-Community
>>  Subject: Re: Warning: This may offend if religious
>>
>>
>>  Actually, it is. No amount of research has shown for a fact
>>  that you are forced to be gay or not. There has been some
>
>But, no amount of research has shown that you can be forced to be gay or
>not.
>
>"Are" and "can be" are the operative words.  The question is whether you
>are gay at birth or "change" later.  I think that most studies agree
>that there's an aspect to both.
>
>As to the term "lifestyle" it's loaded simply because it implies are
>transient thing: the word "style" implies something that may change at
>whim.  And the word life style was simply an invention that's mostly
>been used to implie personal choices.  The phrase "lifestyle choice" has
>become cemented with the word "lifestyle".
>
>In my opinion neither homosexuality or religion can be considered
>"lifestyles".  Homosexuality because, regardless of cause, most
>homosexuals feel they have no choice, and religion because (the truly)
>religious feel that they have no choice.
>
>In both cases you can have aspects of "lifestyle" in those people that
>experiment either sexually or religiously, but that shouldn't then imply
>that anybody gay or religious has made a lifestyle choice.
>
>Jim Davis
>
>
>
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